Death Certificates on Abortions Proposed

[nebula]

There are a multitude of factors behind teen pregnancy: poverty, lack of parental involvement, inadequate education on contraceptive use, drugs and alcohol use, among other factors.

Why are they factors? In other words, what makes them factors?

Statistically, there is no single root cause, we only see correlations. If there is something that you are getting at, I wish you would just come out with it.

Trying to see if you really know what is going on or if you just know how to regurgitate what Planned Parenthood et al are saying.

I can tell you do not by the fact that you cannot answer the question.

[forrestkc]

Trying to see if you really know what is going on or if you just know how to regurgitate what Planned Parenthood et al are saying.

I can tell you do not by the fact that you cannot answer the question.

I was a teen once. In fact, I am only 30, so it was not that long ago. The fact is, if Moses himself would have stood atop Hot Springs Tower and thundered down "Abstain Until Marriage!!!", I still, like 99% of your stupid teens and young adults out there, had no intention of doing so. So I am not sure what else is going to curb teen pregnancies other than promoting contraceptive use in addition to abstinence.

Do you have any other ideas?

[forrestkc]

Look, if its just a clump of cells and not a baby, then where is the stigmatism?

Care to answer?

BTW, that site you posted is disgusting!

Actually, I just looked at the other articles on the site, and you are right, it is disgusting.

As to the stigmatism, it is in what some others make of it.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

If there was a way to protect the privacy of the mother, I would be for this idea. As it is currently however, I don't see how that could happen, therefore I don't support this proposition.

When abortion is viewed as a crime in America I will agree to making the mother's personal information public record, but until then as long as abortion is a legal operation I see no reason to make the mother's information a matter of public interest; the mother should retain the right of privacy at this point in time.

So mans laws are to be followed over Gods laws?

You are comparing apples to oranges. God's law sets the difference between right and wrong, man's law maintains human structure and order. My issue at hand isn't the right or wrong of abortion, it is the legal right of the mother's privacy on the issue.

Edited February 15, 2007 by Oh Hamburgers!

[Giaour]

Trying to see if you really know what is going on or if you just know how to regurgitate what Planned Parenthood et al are saying.

I can tell you do not by the fact that you cannot answer the question.

I was a teen once. In fact, I am only 30, so it was not that long ago. The fact is, if Moses himself would have stood atop Hot Springs Tower and thundered down "Abstain Until Marriage!!!", I still, like 99% of your stupid teens and young adults out there, had no intention of doing so. So I am not sure what else is going to curb teen pregnancies other than promoting contraceptive use in addition to abstinence.

Do you have any other ideas?

I have an idea.

Lets get back to a point in society where pre marital sex was not socially acceptable.

Lets quit glamourizing teen pregnancy and teen sex.

Lets not allow pregnant teens to attend public school where they brag about it and are admired by their peers.

When I was growing up, we never saw a pregnant teen. They were always shipped off to their "aunt mays" house for the year. (Where the baby was adopted)

Then they came back to school and hid their shame.

I see pregnant teens now days and they are so proud and boastful. They have no shame in what they did.

[forrestkc]

I have an idea.

Lets get back to a point in society where pre marital sex was not socially acceptable.

Lets quit glamourizing teen pregnancy and teen sex.

Lets not allow pregnant teens to attend public school where they brag about it and are admired by their peers.

When I was growing up, we never saw a pregnant teen. They were always shipped off to their "aunt mays" house for the year. (Where the baby was adopted)

Then they came back to school and hid their shame.

I see pregnant teens now days and they are so proud and boastful. They have no shame in what they did.

I never remember a single pregnant teen when I was in school being proud of it.

[Giaour]

If there was a way to protect the privacy of the mother, I would be for this idea. As it is currently however, I don't see how that could happen, therefore I don't support this proposition.

When abortion is viewed as a crime in America I will agree to making the mother's personal information public record, but until then as long as abortion is a legal operation I see no reason to make the mother's information a matter of public interest; the mother should retain the right of privacy at this point in time.

So mans laws are to be followed over Gods laws?

You are comparing apples to oranges. God's law sets the difference between right and wrong, man's law maintains human structure and order. My issue at hand isn't the right or wrong of abortion, it is the legal right of the mother's privacy on the issue.

A woman who aborts a baby is not a "mother".

[forrestkc]

What is the difference? Are they both not valuable to God? You obviously have never taken an anatomy or physiology course because if you had, you would know that every single tissue in the human body is made up solely from cells. Your skin, your bones, your muscles, your brain, your hair are all made up of cells and each has its own role to play in plant, animal and human life and is adapted to perform a particular function.

I am aware of that, but I think that most people see a difference between a handful of undifferentiated cells and a new born baby.

[Giaour]

I have an idea.

Lets get back to a point in society where pre marital sex was not socially acceptable.

Lets quit glamourizing teen pregnancy and teen sex.

Lets not allow pregnant teens to attend public school where they brag about it and are admired by their peers.

When I was growing up, we never saw a pregnant teen. They were always shipped off to their "aunt mays" house for the year. (Where the baby was adopted)

Then they came back to school and hid their shame.

I see pregnant teens now days and they are so proud and boastful. They have no shame in what they did.

I never remember a single pregnant teen when I was in school being proud of it.

Well then you havent been to a high school in awhile. I see the other girls fauning over the preggie teens.

[forrestkc]

I have an idea.

Lets get back to a point in society where pre marital sex was not socially acceptable.

Lets quit glamourizing teen pregnancy and teen sex.

Lets not allow pregnant teens to attend public school where they brag about it and are admired by their peers.

When I was growing up, we never saw a pregnant teen. They were always shipped off to their "aunt mays" house for the year. (Where the baby was adopted)

Then they came back to school and hid their shame.

I see pregnant teens now days and they are so proud and boastful. They have no shame in what they did.

I never remember a single pregnant teen when I was in school being proud of it.

Well then you haven't been to a high school in awhile. I see the other girls fawning over the preggie teens.

Well yeah, they do that, they faun over everyone that is pregnant. However, few teens want to be pregnant. If there was not a stigma attached to teenage pregnancy, then they would not be getting abortions.