Why Can't Men Believe what the Scriptures Say?

[HAZARD]

Scripture states that God calls women to preach. There is as much contraversey regarding the subject, whether God calls women to preach as there is on all other doctrinal issues. Thankfully, as always, the Scriptures clear up this question like they do all others matters if we will but believe the Bible.

In the gospel there were several woman messengers who proclaimed the good news (Matt. 28:1-10; Luke 24:9-11; John 4:28-30; 20:16-18). Is proclaiming the good news preaching?? Well, in churches I have attended over the years, this is what ministers have been doing for many years. "Come to my church on whatever day, and I will give you the good news about Jesus, your salvation, halellua, praise God". I'm gonna tell you all about Him and your salvation, I'm gonna tell you about the Word of God in the Bible." Is this preaching???

If its a man it seem's to be called preaching, and if its a woman, it seems many men are aginst women doing this.

WHY?

There is nothing in Scripture which says women cannot be used by God to further His work on this Earth?

Regarding these end time days, in Acts we have a prediction that God will pour out of His Spirit in the last days "UPON ALL FLESH; and your sons and DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; and upon my servants and upon my HANDMAIDENS I will pour out of my Spirit and they will prophesy." Prophesying is explained in 1 Cor. 14:3-4 as "speaking unto MEN to edification and exhortation and comfort." Thats preaching, teaching, praying, in anyones language. and God says He will pour out His Spirit upon men and WOMEN to enable them to do this!

These following passages prove to any unbiased mind that prophesying is for the church which has men and WOMEN members (1 Cor. 12:1-13; 14:1-6, 12, 24-26, 29-33).

In Acts 21:8-9 we read Philip had four daughters that did prophecy or preach in the early church.

In Romans 16 we have Phebe, Priscilla, Mary Junia, Tryphosa, Persis, all female names, women mentioned as laborers in the gospel.

In Phil. 4:2-3 we have Euodias and Syntyche, two women who are emntioned as leaders in the local church at Philippi. They are refered to as "those WOMEN which labored with me in the Gospel."

Paul speakes of the Corinthian women prophesying and praying in church (1 Cor. 11:4; 14:1-5, 23-26).

When paul said for women to "keep silence in the church" he was not speaking of women prophesying or praying, but he referred to asking their husbands certain things at church. He said, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home" and not in the church (1 Cor. 14:34-35). But that they could speak and prophecy and pray in church is clear from 1 Cor. 11:4; 14:3-4, 23-26; and Acts 2:16-21.

Women have been used in all ages by God, Read there Scriptures and some men can disbelieve them if they want, but who realy cares? Its the Scriptures which matter and not what some men think. (Ex. 15:20; Judges 4:4; 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chron. 34:22; Neh. 6:14; Isa. 8:3; Luke 1:39-56; 2:36). God is soverign and He can use a woman when He pleases and He does not have to ask some mere man whom He should use and whether He should use a women or man. And most women I have heard have made more sense regarding doctrin than most men I have ever heard regarding doctrin or the actual Word of God?

Stick that in your pipes and smoke it, all you (edit) ministers who think you know it all? I have had a gut full of your putting down women preachers. If women these days are called by God to do the work that many men are too timid and sceared to do then God will use women and He does not need anyones approval.

Haz.

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Edited March 8, 2007 by Ovedya

[LightofJesus]

[Guest Biblicist]

Maybe you should ask yourself. . . why can't men, and women, apply Biblical Hermeneutics?

[Marnie]

Maybe you should ask yourself. . . why can't men, and women, apply Biblical Hermeneutics?

Because men have always had an agenda to uphold Church doctrine, not Biblical doctrine. And before some genius man says it, I will: "Marnie, how can you be so sexist? That was a male chauvinist statement, you demeaned yourself." *rolls eyes*

[Guest Biblicist]

Maybe you should ask yourself. . . why can't men, and women, apply Biblical Hermeneutics?

Because men have always had an agenda to uphold Church doctrine, not Biblical doctrine.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up, Marnie. . .

hazard,

"Come to my church on whatever day, and I will give you the good news about Jesus, your salvation, halellua, praise God". I'm gonna tell you all about Him and your salvation, I'm gonna tell you about the Word of God in the Bible."

That is not preaching. We are all called to "go ye therefore and teach all nations". Only some are called to preach. It is a higher calling, a gift of God. The Pastor is directly responsible to God for the members of his flock. If he fails them from the pulpit, which so many are these days, he will answer for it.

[gypc]

Stick that in your pipes and smoke it, all you (edit) who think you know it all? I have had a gut full of your putting down women preachers. If women these days are called by God to do the work that many men are too timid and sceared to do then God will use women and He does not need anyones approval.

You want to prove a point and you might have a valid arguement but you've lost creditability with this statement. It causes us to find that your post is led by the flesh and not the Spirit.

[Guest shiloh357]

You want to prove a point and you might have a valid arguement but you've lost creditability with this statement. It causes us to find that your post is led by the flesh and not the Spirit.

I agree. Any valid point you made just went down the tubes. BTW, profanity is a violation of the Terms Of Service which you agreed to when you signed up, and your violation has been reported to the moderators for further action.

[Marnie]

Maybe you should ask yourself. . . why can't men, and women, apply Biblical Hermeneutics?

Because men have always had an agenda to uphold Church doctrine, not Biblical doctrine.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up, Marnie. . .

Always ready to lend a helping hand.

[Scarletprayers]

This topic has been oft repeated and will come to the same conclusion as the others, it will be closed down. I hope it happens quickly.

My question would have been Why can't WOMEN believe what the scriptures says. As you can see I disagree with you.

[Smalcald]

Women obviously are called to preach, evangelize, prophesize, administer, teach, and many many other callings within the Church.

I don't know what that has to do with who we appoint as Deacons, Elders and Bishops, and who has authority within a specific congregation though? Scripture is clear on those points.

My denomination split over this issue about forty years ago, and maybe I am sensitive to it as I have seen what has happened to the bunch which did go down that road. The issue is far far broader than ordaining women; it is about scriptural authority, tradition and conforming to the modern world.

I think the issue shows the essential flaw of Protestant churches in the US, a refusal to accept any authority, including authority of scripture, so we all just go do whatever our personal interpretation of what God wants for us takes us. Is it a coincidence that the major mainline Protestant denominations which first started ordaining women some thirty or forty years ago are now apostate on numerous other much much larger issues? I think not.