abraham and sarah

[RCruise]

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Abraham obviously had no Supernatural Faith that if God called him out, God would keep him safe and be with him just as God promised.

Hebrews 11:8-19 say's all that Abraham did was by trust.

Actually, "by faith" but, I never said he didn't have faith. It takes a lot of Faith to offer up your only son knowing God will keep the Promise He made on that son. But, the Abimelech incident was early before Isaac. And, it is obvious Abraham "feared" (he said he did to Sarah and the king) not knowing as yet or understanding the Promise God made to him when God called him out of his father's house and land. I did stiplify "Supernatureal Faith" which did grow later and exceedingly so.

From where do you get the term supernatural trust/ faith? Trust in and of itself is a gift from G-d and Abraham exercised this as soon as he received the call, simply because it had been given to him, once he'd received trust it grew, it grew because it was the real thing. He may have exercised it in varying degrees but the writer of Hebrews states in verse 8 that he moved in trust.

As to the amount of trust being exercised it's more to do with quality, small amounts of trust can move mountains if it's the real thing, and not the psyching up of the mental attributes with a positive mental attitude.

Trust is given that we may exercise it and the exercise of trust is well pleasing to the Lord because it is His trust that we exercise, just as He is life and gives us eternal life so is He the means of our trusting.

The trials of our trust as the trial of Abrahams trust; is not to prove it's quality to the Lord, but that we should see it's worth and become more reliant upon it rather than our ingenuity e.g. Telling lies or half truths to protect ourselves.

The Lord by His providential care brought Abraham to this trial that through it he may learn to trust in the Lord and not lean unto his own understanding. I recognise the trial having just been through it, again, and like Abraham have been found wanting.

Grace & truth,

Agape, H.

???........tryster, I think we are on the same page here so I am not sure what your original posting of Hebrews verse was about? The original question in post one was why did Abraham lie. If Abraham had "Perfect Trust" as you say, he would not have because I posted in the original post what God had promised him when he separated and travelled out. Yet Abraham out of fear for his life, had Sarah agree to lie and he lied by hiding the fact she was his wife. And then later down the road of Faith increase in God's Word (as we all receive Faith the same), Abraham offerred up Isaac knowing God would keep His promise in Isaac even if God had to raise Isaac from the Alter after being sacrificed.

[JIME]

Why did God allow Abraham to tell the king that Sarah was his sister and not his wife? I will leave it at that.

If God created the world in 7 days, where do dinosaurs fit in? Were they hear when we Adam and Eve were created?

Why did God allow every firstborn son to be killed?

Thankyou,

Rachel72

Abraham told the truth. If you read Genesis 20:12, it says, "Besides, she is my sister