WISDOM Posted November 7, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,692 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/24/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1952 Share Posted November 7, 2002 Do you believe GOD will punish HIS people today who are complacent or insincere in the exercise of their Christian faith?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneAccord Posted November 7, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,587 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 7, 2002 Okay, here's one I am really confused about.... The way I understand is that once you confess the Lord and believe in your heart, you are saved. Period. Then there are two judgements. Â First judgement separates the sheep from the goats, the believers from the unbelievers. Second judgement holds each saved believer accountable for deeds and words in their Christian walk. As for whether there is punishment as well as reward, I haven't heard or read anything like that for believers, only unbelievers. I'm just sure there is accountibility for all believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted November 7, 2002 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,466 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,805 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,536 Days Won: 130 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted November 7, 2002 This is some scriptures that will add to this discussion: Hebrews 12:5 Â And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 Â For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 Â If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 Â But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9 Â Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10 Â For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11 Â Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. Your brother in Christ with much agape love, George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen C. Posted November 8, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 662 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/01/1960 Author Share Posted November 8, 2002 On the BIG Church scale, I believe there is fixin to be "shaken going on" and a true call to repentence. Too much compromise. The Lord will recieve a "glorious Church, without spot or wrinkle..... Â Individualy, like the scriptures George noted, we are corrected and I have come under that correction many times in my Spirit led life.. I believe failure to recieve correction is dangerous and can lead to quenching the spiriit and a falling away. (or becoming very legalistic :biggrin: ) I know without the correction I could not make it.... I'm to prone to "getting comfortable"... He "shakes" me when I get there... Praise God for that.... :inlove: That is just the "flesh" trying to take over... the daily battle rages.... Much :inlove: in Christ, Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanakila Posted November 8, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2002 There is another judgement you missed: The Bema Seat Judgement. This is the judgement for rewards for believers, where works done with the wrong motives will be burned (wood, hay, stubble) and those with pure motives will be rewarded (crowns). In Rev it says, God will wipe away all tears, and I can imagine there will be tears when we see, all. As well as at the judgement of the wicked, when we see the blood on our hands for not telling them (Jeremiah). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneAccord Posted November 8, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,587 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2002 There is another judgement you missed: The Bema Seat Judgement. This is the judgement for rewards for believers, where works done with the wrong motives will be burned (wood, hay, stubble) and those with pure motives will be rewarded (crowns). In Rev it says, God will wipe away all tears, and I can imagine there will be tears when we see, all. As well as at the judgement of the wicked, when we see the blood on our hands for not telling them (Jeremiah). Am I correct then in my understanding of the two judgements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 8, 2002 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2002 Lana , You said it girl, I agree with your statement ,if we don't do what we are supposed to do God will correct us, sometimes He will even take our life away, because of our bad testemony for Him. But either way we lose out, because where will our reward be when we stand before Jesus, will we want to stand there empty handed? I don't think so!! We all go through ups and downs in this life ..but as a rule if you love the Lord you don't want to be complecent or insincere . God Bless, Angels Love in Christ,Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refugepsa91 Posted November 9, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,961 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/25/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2002 Because the Lord disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in.    Proverbs 3:12 Blessed is the man whom God corrects; so do not despise the discipline of the Almighty. For he wounds, but he also binds up; he injures, but His hands also heal.   Job 5:17,18 Blessed is the man you discipline, O Lord, the man you teach from your law; you grant him relief from days of trouble, till a pit is dug for the wicked.   Psalm 94: 12,13   I have had my hands "slapped" a few times by God....and I thank Him for it :inlove:  and I'm sure I will have them slapped again....   Blessings to all   Angel H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commentor Posted November 9, 2002 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2002 I remember reading in the book of Revelation where Jesus warned of being a "lukewarm" Christian. Jesus said that he would rather us be a hot or cold Christian, and that those lukewarm Christians Jesus said he would spit them out of his mouth. See Revelation 3:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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