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I have gotten sick of the Swedish christianity, the state church "the church of Sweden" was founded in the 12th century as the swedish branch of the catholic church, in the 16th century the swedish king trasformed it into a protestant church. It was good untill latter days. Now it says that there is no hell nor satan, and tey deny the end days. There are other churches to like quakers and other even more liberal ones, too liberal ones.

How do i become a genuine pastor? I want to save people and start a little society outside major citys where i and my church will get armed and await the end days.

A minute and a half of your time online and some cashola out of your credit card can let you put "the Rev" in front of your name, complete with certificate. I tried it once! It really works!

I'm sure it does...and that's actually a sad statement. Having the title doesn't equip someone to be a real pastor.

THEN I WANT MY MONEY BACK!

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I have gotten sick of the Swedish christianity, the state church "the church of Sweden" was founded in the 12th century as the swedish branch of the catholic church, in the 16th century the swedish king trasformed it into a protestant church. It was good untill latter days. Now it says that there is no hell nor satan, and tey deny the end days. There are other churches to like quakers and other even more liberal ones, too liberal ones.

How do i become a genuine pastor? I want to save people and start a little society outside major citys where i and my church will get armed and await the end days.

You become a pastor by pastoring. Plain and simple. As you fulfill the Great Commission, you will find yourself doing just that! Reach the lost and disciple them, and make disciples and disciplers of them. Start with a home-based church, but do not form any "church"-like group unless you have a strong mentor behind you to assist you and to cover you with prayer. As you are obedient, God will move you into it further and further. Just seek first the kingdom of God and He will add all you need to you. He will educate you. If you decide that later you need some formal book-learning, then do it.

I agree...because a college can give you all the head knowlege in the world...whereas going through discipleship also builds your character. I think both are important...but I think discipleship would be even more important than a college education...Unfortunately in our day and age...you need a college degree to even speak in most churches...

of course I like what I heard someone say once...They went to the U of HK...(University of hard knocks...) :emot-pray:


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I have gotten sick of the Swedish christianity, the state church "the church of Sweden" was founded in the 12th century as the swedish branch of the catholic church, in the 16th century the swedish king trasformed it into a protestant church. It was good untill latter days. Now it says that there is no hell nor satan, and tey deny the end days. There are other churches to like quakers and other even more liberal ones, too liberal ones.

How do i become a genuine pastor? I want to save people and start a little society outside major citys where i and my church will get armed and await the end days.

You become a pastor by pastoring. Plain and simple. As you fulfill the Great Commission, you will find yourself doing just that! Reach the lost and disciple them, and make disciples and disciplers of them. Start with a home-based church, but do not form any "church"-like group unless you have a strong mentor behind you to assist you and to cover you with prayer. As you are obedient, God will move you into it further and further. Just seek first the kingdom of God and He will add all you need to you. He will educate you. If you decide that later you need some formal book-learning, then do it.

I agree...because a college can give you all the head knowlege in the world...whereas going through discipleship also builds your character. I think both are important...but I think discipleship would be even more important than a college education...Unfortunately in our day and age...you need a college degree to even speak in most churches...

of course I like what I heard someone say once...They went to the U of HK...(University of hard knocks...) :emot-pray:

To be honest, I'd actually say that they're equally important. I mean, in highschool, I had a lot of passion and a lot of discipleship...but I wasn't very educated in the Bible. Granted, there's only so much one can learn in a couple years of being a Christian, but BOY do I wish I'd known the things I know now. Would've stopped me from saying a lot of things based on rather unfounded impressions and overall ignorance. Not saying people without a BIble College education are ignorant, either...but you'd be surprised at the things you learn there, and I think a lot of them are things pastors NEED to know.

Besides...Bible College itself is a great place for finding discipleship.


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There is a lot of people in Iran searching for christ and the few pastors there is are all buissy, i will study the bible ad go to those schools become a pastor and teach the gospel in Iran, the end days are close,, must save as many souls as i can. Im gonna devote my life to it.

Got some more links?


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Hmmm...off the top of my head...the Christian College Guide comes to mind...but I don't know if it has many listings for schools outside the US and Canada.


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Hmmm...off the top of my head...the Christian College Guide comes to mind...but I don't know if it has many listings for schools outside the US and Canada.

There are tons of christian schools, but only catholic, and the few swedish schools dont teach the OT and the end days et c. Its to "unconservative".

Well i guess i can go and study in Canada, that would work fine, its also the nation that got most Iranians outside of Iran, 3 million i think


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Well, in that case, I have to put in my personal recommendation for my Bible College, Prairie Bible Institute. I still love that place (it's where my husband and I met!). It gets a fairly large number of foreign students, too, so if you contact them they may be able to help you find some resources for helping you get here.


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Arash, if your goal is to go to Iran I guess I would consider the situation there and how best to reach the Iranian people. Of the Christian Pastors that are in Iran today, what did they do to prepare? Do you like and respect any of them? If so then that would be the place to start and to find a mentor to help you lead the way when you went. They may be a good place to start if you could find it possible to contact them? I am sure you know better than I about how hard it would be or not to contact Christians in Iran.

It is a brave thing to do I will have you in my prayers.

(although there are probably more true Christians in Iran than in Sweden) :rolleyes:


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Since I don't know everyone really well yet, I'm going to ask a stupid question:

You're kidding about the David Koresh, koolaid cult, get-armed-and-wait thing, right?


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I can only speak to my particular denomination:

1. I attended seminary (TEDS)

2. I had an initial licensing period of 1 year where I was required to write a doctrinal paper and have it reviewed by my peers

3. I had an additional 3 year period where I refined the paper and then had to sit at an ordination council

4. I needed recommendations from other pastors, seminary professors, and lay people

Eric

:D

There are way way too many "self appointed" ministers around who are totally ignorant of the Word and Church polity. I was on our church's pastor search committee, and I personally would not even look at a candidate without at least an M.Div or equivalent or preferably a terminal degree in Theological studies (we have a lot of highly educated folk in our congregation), plus at least a year of internship and recommendations out the wazzoo.

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