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This is more of a question, but I have a feeling it will turn into a debate.

Anyway, is there any good evidence that the Earth is actually 6000-8000 years old? Doesn't all the scientific evidence (which we cannot ignore) point to an old Earth?

The only refutation I have heard is that carbon dating is faulty. But I just can't believe that all the scientists that use this process are ignorant enough to continue using something that doesn't work. It sounds too much like a conspiracy theory. It is like someone saying that NASA is merely a conspiracy organization trying to trick us into believing the Earth is round when it is actually flat.

So, can anyone give some good evidence for a young Earth?

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No, they can't.

If they allow the word "yom" to mean what it's primary definition is, there is no problem resolving the measureable evidence to the biblical account.

That is NOT saying evolution is true. I'm only saying that the word "yom" (which means an age or epoch but is translated as "day" in the genesis account) is not necessarily 24 hours long. It can be 6 trillion years or it can be 6 nanoseconds.

Oy...I can hear the screams of people who won't even consider it already.

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Oy...I can hear the screams of people who won't even consider it already.
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Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
Psalms 133:1

Behold The KING

One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple.
Psalms 27:4

I base the days of creation upon Genesis One and Two.

And on verses like this......

But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Exodus 20:10-11

God can and did speak everything into existence.

Factual Science and man's limited knowledge can not and does not honestly address The Power of God The Creator.

Nor will our puny scientific knowledge have any limiting effects what so ever on how God do The Creating including the time He took for each day.

Man does not determined Truth.

God determents Truth.

Man says his puny knowledge and false myths are equal to or better than God.

Satan tried this little stunt and look what it got him.....

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isaiah 14:12-15

Yod is a Dear Brother and I choose to stand with him for God's Beloved Israel rather then uselessly quibble about days.

There are much bigger issues to address!

The Beast gathers in hatred.

Israel is surrounded

Time is short.

Hosanna!

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe


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Anyone who really cares to search this out can go to icr.org. They have the best research on the matter. I have a B.S. but I'm not up to date on the scientific studies.


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Anyone who really cares to search this out can go to icr.org. They have the best research on the matter. I have a B.S. but I'm not up to date on the scientific studies.

Hi all.

Thought you may find the following link Interesting. A engraving of a dinosaur on Bishop Bell's tomb Carlisle Cathedral UK dated 1496. Surely Dinosaurs wern't discovered untill the 18th century?

check out the site and ask yourselves why the authorities don't want anyone to know about this tomb. You would think it would be used as a attraction to get more visitors in.

I found it very intersting.

dinosaur on 1496 tomb.


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Fresno,

If the bible is being literal when it tells us that the Earth was actually created in 6 days about 6000 years ago, then we have a problem. All the scientific evidence points to a much older earth. So that leaves us with two options: 1. The Bible is just plain wrong (And I certainly don't believe this). 2. God has decieved us by putting old things on a new Earth (which is against God's character.)

I don't like either of those answers. But I do like the one that says the Bible is still right, and perfectly coincides with science.

This is Galileo all over again. It's time to take a strong look at our worldview and ask ourselves if we are willing to open our mind and give God the credit He is due.


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Anyone who really cares to search this out can go to icr.org. They have the best research on the matter. I have a B.S. but I'm not up to date on the scientific studies.

Hi all.

Thought you may find the following link Interesting. A engraving of a dinosaur on Bishop Bell's tomb Carlisle Cathedral UK dated 1496. Surely Dinosaurs wern't discovered untill the 18th century?

check out the site and ask yourselves why the authorities don't want anyone to know about this tomb. You would think it would be used as a attraction to get more visitors in.

I found it very intersting.

dinosaur on 1496 tomb.

I'm sorry, but if dinosaurs were around during that time, we would have known about it. We have documentation from that period in abundance, yet this is the only evidence we have to point towards dinosaurs? This is merely another conspiracy theory and has obviously not been taken seriously by any authorities. You say the authorities are trying to keep it on the down-low. I say they see through garbage and understand that this is not verifiable evidence for dinosaurs. If they were around at that time, why do we not see them now? Surely the atmosphere hasn't changed enough to wipe out the largest and strongest creatures to ever walk the Earth in 500 years?

Too many holes.

Way too many holes.


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Fresno,

If the bible is being literal when it tells us that the Earth was actually created in 6 days about 6000 years ago, then we have a problem. All the scientific evidence points to a much older earth. So that leaves us with two options: 1. The Bible is just plain wrong (And I certainly don't believe this). 2. God has decieved us by putting old things on a new Earth (which is against God's character.)

I don't like either of those answers. But I do like the one that says the Bible is still right, and perfectly coincides with science.

This is Galileo all over again. It's time to take a strong look at our worldview and ask ourselves if we are willing to open our mind and give God the credit He is due.

Just Google Mount St Helen's and rapid sedimentaion, and haemoglobin in dinosaur bones, and then re-evaluate.

As I keep on repeating, we do not believe what we see, we see what we believe.

Ruth


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Fresno,

If the bible is being literal when it tells us that the Earth was actually created in 6 days about 6000 years ago, then we have a problem. All the scientific evidence points to a much older earth. So that leaves us with two options: 1. The Bible is just plain wrong (And I certainly don't believe this). 2. God has decieved us by putting old things on a new Earth (which is against God's character.)

I don't like either of those answers. But I do like the one that says the Bible is still right, and perfectly coincides with science.

This is Galileo all over again. It's time to take a strong look at our worldview and ask ourselves if we are willing to open our mind and give God the credit He is due.

Just Google Mount St Helen's and rapid sedimentaion, and haemoglobin in dinosaur bones, and then re-evaluate.

As I keep on repeating, we do not believe what we see, we see what we believe.

Ruth

This is interesting. I understand where you are coming from, but even the article stated that this was an "exceptional example". If compared to the size of the Grand Canyon or Palo Duro Canyon (which I live about 20 miles from) then this process could not have been the case. They are much too large. When the article stated that Mt. St. Helens was a "miniature Grand Canyon" they forgot to emphasize the word "miniature". But I haven't really done any hard studying on this subject so I will dive into it soon and get back to you.

Is there any evidence that this rapid erosion could have happened in the Grand Canyon or the Palo Duro Canyon?


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Fresno,

If the bible is being literal when it tells us that the Earth was actually created in 6 days about 6000 years ago, then we have a problem. All the scientific evidence points to a much older earth. So that leaves us with two options: 1. The Bible is just plain wrong (And I certainly don't believe this). 2. God has decieved us by putting old things on a new Earth (which is against God's character.)

I don't like either of those answers. But I do like the one that says the Bible is still right, and perfectly coincides with science.

This is Galileo all over again. It's time to take a strong look at our worldview and ask ourselves if we are willing to open our mind and give God the credit He is due.

Just Google Mount St Helen's and rapid sedimentaion, and haemoglobin in dinosaur bones, and then re-evaluate.

As I keep on repeating, we do not believe what we see, we see what we believe.

Ruth

This is interesting. I understand where you are coming from, but even the article stated that this was an "exceptional example". If compared to the size of the Grand Canyon or Palo Duro Canyon (which I live about 20 miles from) then this process could not have been the case. They are much too large. When the article stated that Mt. St. Helens was a "miniature Grand Canyon" they forgot to emphasize the word "miniature". But I haven't really done any hard studying on this subject so I will dive into it soon and get back to you.

Is there any evidence that this rapid erosion could have happened in the Grand Canyon or the Palo Duro Canyon?

Catastrophes are always exceptional. The Flood was a catastrophe. Volcanic eruptions are catastrophic. The recent Mount St Helen's rapid sedimentation was the result of a catastrophic event. The point is that catastrophic events can cause geological changes in ONE DAY that might otherwise take 1000 years of slow deposition via erosion.

Ruth

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