Ouija Boards etc. fro Christians

[Emily~Anne]

In response to Giaour, the beings may not exist, but they are the appearance of evil. That's the problem I have with them. To me that says it doesn't matter if you believe in them or if you use them in the evil way. The point is they have the appearance of evil. Well written post Giaour and I appreciate your disagreeing respectably.

[Giaour]

ok i'm gonna throw my two cents in the middle of the disagreement between rtwo and vicki.... not sure it will be appreciated from either side.

my oldest daughter is wiccan. she absolutely adores gnomes, faeries, etc.... but she doesn't worship them.

that may or may not mean anything or add weight to either side of ya'lls disagreement, but i think it's safe to say that ya'll are at an impasse, and it's kinda derailing the direction of the thread... so maybe ya'll could agree to disagree on the point?

Shalom LadyC,

Of course your input is welcomed! Thanks!

Personally, rtwo's opinion is not the issue. So there will be no more arguing about it.

The point is, gnomes are worshiped and idolized. They are not G-d-created and do not glorify G-d. Since they are so associated with evil, it would be a Christian thing for a Christian to consider not offending a Brother or a non-Christian and get rid of the thing. It's not like it does anything for G-d! Why people are so attached to them, refuse to lay them down, even for a Brother shows me that there is more an "innocence" regarding gnomes. Anything that important should be assessed by the Scriptures.

I do not think that gnomes and fairies are "so associated with evil"as you have stated. Gnomes are associated with tacky yard art.

Fairies are associated with peter pan and hans christian andersen type children stories.

[Giaour]

In response to Giaour, the beings may not exist, but they are the appearance of evil. That's the problem I have with them. To me that says it doesn't matter if you believe in them or if you use them in the evil way. The point is they have the appearance of evil. Well written post Giaour and I appreciate your disagreeing respectably.

This is a serious and honest question.

When you see a little girl wearing a tinkerbell shirt, do you think she appears as "evil".

[Marnie]

When you see a little girl wearing a tinkerbell shirt, do you think she appears as "evil".

Uh oh...

[AndrewA]

I do not think that gnomes and fairies are "so associated with evil"as you have stated. Gnomes are associated with tacky yard art.

Fairies are associated with peter pan and hans christian andersen type children stories.

This is a good illustration of how Satan has gained a foothold in todays culture, deceiving people into thinking that there is nothing wrong with fairies gnomes, elves, dwarfs etc. Go back and read my post and vicky's about the origins of these creatures. there are a large number of websites that deal with fairy sightings and a huge number of books on how to communicate with these creatures such as gnomes etc.

Fairies etc serve no useful purpose to man and are just tools of Satan to turn people away just ask the thousands of people who genuinely communicate with these creatures, ie demons. Is having an image that represents a demon acceptable? well thats your choice, but be prepared for what God will have to say about it come judgment day.

[AndrewA]

When you see a little girl wearing a tinkerbell shirt, do you think she appears as "evil".

Little girls playing at fairies or wearing fairy stuff may seem harmless and cute, but how long before they start thinking and beleiveing fairies are real, start of slippery slope into communicating with demons. "Ooo I saw a fairy, better not tell my mummy she says they not real and dost believe in them, I think ill try and see it again tomorrow"

Behind the scene Satan rubs his hands together at ensnaring another victim down the path of the occult.

[Giaour]

I do not think that gnomes and fairies are "so associated with evil"as you have stated. Gnomes are associated with tacky yard art.

Fairies are associated with peter pan and hans christian andersen type children stories.

This is a good illustration of how Satan has gained a foothold in todays culture, deceiving people into thinking that there is nothing wrong with fairies gnomes, elves, dwarfs etc. Go back and read my post and vicky's about the origins of these creatures. there are a large number of websites that deal with fairy sightings and a huge number of books on how to communicate with these creatures such as gnomes etc.

Fairies etc serve no useful purpose to man and are just tools of Satan to turn people away just ask the thousands of people who genuinely communicate with these creatures, ie demons. Is having an image that represents a demon acceptable? well thats your choice, but be prepared for what God will have to say about it come judgment day.

I am not deceived by satan! Anyone that disagrees with you are deceived by satan. You are the one deceived, You made it very clear in your last topic that you believe demons inhabit objects.That is unbiblical and superstition. You are the one who needs to be prepared for what God will have to say on judgement day. Spreading fear and superstition.

I read your post on the "origins" of mythilogical creatures. It's rubbish. They are not real.

People see what they want to see.

Raising your child in a Christian home will prevent your children from believing in things that are not real.

******

Edited June 8, 2007 by Matthitjah

[Emily~Anne]

When you see a little girl wearing a tinkerbell shirt, do you think she appears as "evil".

Little girls playing at fairies or wearing fairy stuff may seem harmless and cute, but how long before they start thinking and beleiveing fairies are real, start of slippery slope into communicating with demons. "Ooo I saw a fairy, better not tell my mummy she says they not real and dost believe in them, I think ill try and see it again tomorrow"

Behind the scene Satan rubs his hands together at ensnaring another victim down the path of the occult.

This reminds me of my post from the other thread which I am going to paste in here:

My problem with the gnomes and faeries and such is the way how they inspire the imagination and that can easily turn the wrong way. Perhaps you would never fall into the trap, but are you going to keep your beautiful faeries and such locked in a closet? Chances are others will see them. Faeries are just absolutely gorgeous. I could dream all night long about faeries frolicking through the forest, and little forest gnomes and elves and the such. I believe this is how it gets started with many people. Go online and google faerie magick and such, and you will come across beautiful websites that have the most gorgeous pictures on them. One website has a picture of a beautiful human sized faerie and at her feet are many miniature sized faeries. They are in the forest, and there is a ray of sunshine shining down on them. On this website you will find a wide variety of recipes for faerie spells for contacting the elements and spirits of the earth and etc. They are written in a beautiful font. I can see how this could easily draw people. I see faeries and gnomes and such as a temptation to get lured into a whole false belief system.

I have sensed from some of you an attitude of it

[LossForWords]

I asked around today about this topic...I asked people from my church, people from the Baptist church, people from the Methodist church...I asked Christians and Non-Christians. I asked a Wiccan who works at the court house. I asked an athiest who works at the newspaper office. I called my mother and asked her and my grandmother. I asked anybody I could think of that would show diverse opinions.

EVERYBODY I asked said if they walked down the sidewalk and saw a garden gnome in a person's garden, they would not think, "This person has an image of a demon in their garden, this is causing me to think about demons, this is causing me to sin, this should not be happening, I feel in my heart I need to say something about her demonic garden gnome..." I don't know if I have ever met a person who thinks garden gnomes are an appearance of evil...until I started reading these posts. I think it is really odd.

I do not have a garden gnome, nor does my neighbor, so I am not becoming defensive because I already own one or because I know some one who owns one. I am offended that some of you really believe that if an elderly Christian woman has decided to put a tacky lawn ornament in her yard, that she should be living in fear of what will happen to her on judgement day.

I also think that Satan has a really strong foothold on Christians who believe in the superstitious realm enough to judge people who place decorations in their home or yard that are harmless. I don't believe that people talk to gnomes or fairies. I don't believe people can genuinely commincate with fairies and gnomes. I don't believe they are REAL! I believe that if a person is "talking" to a fairy, or a gnome, or any other character, there is something wrong with the PERSON, not the object (or the imaginary character). Maybe the PERSON has made wrong choices and are going down a slippery slope, but a fairy or a gnome didn't make them choose the wrong path. God can't MAKE us do anything, and neither can Satan. We all have choices, it's called free will. Some of us exercise free will and find freedom in Christ (even with garden gnomes in our petunias), some of us exercise free will and begin to delve in the supernatural...some become paranoid and some embrace it.

[Giaour]

In response to Giaour, the beings may not exist, but they are the appearance of evil. That's the problem I have with them. To me that says it doesn't matter if you believe in them or if you use them in the evil way. The point is they have the appearance of evil. Well written post Giaour and I appreciate your disagreeing respectably.

This is a serious and honest question.

When you see a little girl wearing a tinkerbell shirt, do you think she appears as "evil".

I understand that you believe it can be a temptation to weaker or younger believers. If I saw it as a temptaion in my home, I would remove it.

I dont agree with it giving the appearance of evil.

I dont think anyone looks at a garden gnome or fairy statue and thinks the owner must worship demons.

I take my spiritual battles seriously. I just dont see mythalogical creatures as battle worthy. I battle with my thoughts daily, they just dont include gnomes and fairies.

I was serious about my question. You can answer yes or no.