Who was Cain worried about?

[EricH]

Moved from the General Discussion for to the Doctrinal Forum

[None]

'None'

Genesis 6:3

3)Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal;

his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

That's the point at which God set the age limit to 120. Health played a major role, as it does today, on whether or not you reached 120.

You may have missed this scripture in reference to man's day being cut shorter.

Psalm 90:10--"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

as threescore and ten comes to 70 years and fourscore years come to 80 years.

OC

Actually, OC, that's exactly the scripture I had in mind when I stated that it took good health to get to that age.

Psalm 90:10 (New International Version)

10 The length of our days is seventy years

[Openly Curious]

'None'

Genesis 6:3

3)Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal;

his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

That's the point at which God set the age limit to 120. Health played a major role, as it does today, on whether or not you reached 120.

You may have missed this scripture in reference to man's day being cut shorter.

Psalm 90:10--"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

as threescore and ten comes to 70 years and fourscore years come to 80 years.

OC

Actually, OC, that's exactly the scripture I had in mind when I stated that it took good health to get to that age.

Psalm 90:10 (New International Version)

10 The length of our days is seventy years

[None]

'None'

Genesis 6:3

3)Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal;

his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

That's the point at which God set the age limit to 120. Health played a major role, as it does today, on whether or not you reached 120.

You may have missed this scripture in reference to man's day being cut shorter.

Psalm 90:10--"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

as threescore and ten comes to 70 years and fourscore years come to 80 years.

OC

Actually, OC, that's exactly the scripture I had in mind when I stated that it took good health to get to that age.

Psalm 90:10 (New International Version)

10 The length of our days is seventy years

[Openly Curious]

'Openly Curious'

Psalm 90:10--"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

as threescore and ten comes to 70 years and fourscore years come to 80 years.

This particular scripture is easy to overlook because it is in Psalms but it shows how God reduced man's lifespan down to approximately 70 to 80 years, only about 1/10 of what it was originally.

OC

'cardcaptor'

God is not who "reduced" man's lifespan to 70-80, man is who reduces it by unhealthy living.

This does not prove out to be true as there is people who do everything they are suppose to do and still die prematurely. Then there are others who eat what they want and smoke and do other things they shouldn't do and live to be passed 100 years old. In addition you mentioned the 120 years as though it was a maximum lifespan but there have been cases of people living beyong 120 as I know of one who lived to be 126. Those numbers were "averages" not "exact" amounts. Man did not reduce his lifespan down because of unhealthy living as it was a direct result of "sin."

Nowhere in that verse does it even indicate that God reset the age limit to 70-80.

Well that comes down to a matter of interpretation and if one doesn't want to accept it then they don't have to.

If you haven't noticed, people have been living past 80yrs with good health nowadays. I've seen many people who made it over 100.

As I mentioned above I know someone who lived to be 126 years of age so that kind of invalidates your point. The numbers give are averages not maximums. As far as I know the average lifespan of men and women today is between 70 to 80 years old.

Today, an American man who makes it to 65 can expect to live 81.6 years. Then if he manages to make it to 85, he can expect to live long enough to blow out the candles on his 90th birthday cake.

I do not think the averages as a whole are that high but some through strength of days may live that long. According to "Wikipedia" the average lifespan in America is 77 years of age.

But if what you are trying to say is true, when did God increase the age limit again?

There have been rare cases once again where people have lived passed 120 years of age so if it is speaking of "maximum" age I could ask you the same question as you are asking couldn't I. When did God increase it past 120 years of age?

He didn't. He set it once. It's recorded in Genesis.

Again that is a matter of interpretation

OC

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As I mentioned above I know someone who lived to be 126 years of age so that kind of invalidates your point.

You're not talking about this guy are you?

It says there, as most cases like this, "who's age was never proved"...

Where your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God.

[Openly Curious]

'None'

You're not talking about this guy are you?

It says there, as most cases like this, "who's age was never proved"...

No, I am not talking about that guy. I am talking about Elizabeth Pampo Israel who recently died as she had a baptismal certificate that gave the date and year and although it was not an official legal document it showed her age She tried to get in the guiness book of world's record before she died and the guiness book of records wanted to tranfer the title over to her but something to do with the way they kept the records back then was making it very difficult for them to get the documents they need in order to tranfer the title over to her.

Where your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God.

I have the slightest idea what "validation" you are asking from me here. I believe the word as it's written down and it's good enough for me without proof. Are you saying you believe Psalm 90:10 as the average lifespan or the Genesis scripture that the average lifespan is 120 years old. You really did loose me on that one could you clarify for me please.

OC

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No, I am not talking about that guy. I am talking about Elizabeth Pampo Israel who recently died as she had a baptismal certificate that gave the date and year and although it was not an official legal document it showed her age She tried to get in the guiness book of world's record before she died and the guiness book of records wanted to tranfer the title over to her but something to do with the way they kept the records back then was making it very difficult for them to get the documents they need in order to tranfer the title over to her.

From here:

"However, the baptismal register was a copy of a copy of the original, and the entry cited was for "Elizabeth Israel", which was the married, not birth, name of "Ma Pampo", besides her being known as Mione or Minette George for much of her life. What could be pieced together of her life indicated that she probably died a centenarian but not a supercentenarian."

"However, her promoters sought to make up for lack of evidence with strongly worded demands that the Guinness Book of World Records accept the claim anyway."

That document was a fake to get her into the Guinness Book of World Records.

Where's your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God.

I have the slightest idea what "validation" you are asking from me here.

I believe the word as it's written down and it's good enough for me without proof. Are you saying you believe Psalm 90:10 as the average lifespan or the Genesis scripture that the average lifespan is 120 years old.

God is not who "reduced" man's lifespan to 70-80, man is who reduces it by unhealthy living.

Nowhere in that verse does it even indicate that God reset the age limit to 70-80. If you'll notice, the verse in the Psalm was Moses complaining because of the terrible conditions all around them. Moses is not speaking for God there, he was speaking to God.

He even says further down, "teach us to number our days aright...". He was clearly asking God for help, not speaking on behalf of God, as the verse in Genesis where it says "Then the LORD said...".

You really did loose me on that one could you clarify for me please.

I feel very bad about your confusion problems and, if I thought it would actually help you, I would.

[Openly Curious]

Where's your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God.

just wanted a simple clarification was all.

I have the slightest idea what "validation" you are asking from me here?

I believe the word as it's written down and it's good enough for me without proof. Are you saying you believe Psalm 90:10 as the average lifespan? or, the Genesis scripture that the average lifespan is 120 years old?

I don't believe you answered these questions from before.

God is not who "reduced" man's lifespan to 70-80, man is who reduces it by unhealthy living.

Nowhere in that verse does it even indicate that God reset the age limit to 70-80. If you'll notice, the verse in the Psalm was Moses complaining because of the terrible conditions all around them. Moses is not speaking for God there, he was speaking to God.

He even says further down, "teach us to number our days aright...". He was clearly asking God for help, not speaking on behalf of God, as the verse in Genesis where it says "Then the LORD said...".

I do not understand this quote as it was not one of your own quotes but cardcaptor quote in which I had responded to in an earlier post as I did not agree with his assessment of it. How do you stand on what he said in the above quote?

I feel very bad about your confusion problems and, if I thought it would actually help you, I would.

You mean to tell me that you couldn't simply tell me what you meant when you said, Where's your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God. Is it better for me to ask and let you give me what you meant by it or is it best for me to just take a guess at what you meant and let me interpret it however and have to pay the piper later on if I get it wrong. I was trying not to let that happen. I question you feeling bad for me.

OC

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Where's your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God.

just wanted a simple clarification was all.

I have the slightest idea what "validation" you are asking from me here?

I believe the word as it's written down and it's good enough for me without proof. Are you saying you believe Psalm 90:10 as the average lifespan? or, the Genesis scripture that the average lifespan is 120 years old?

I don't believe you answered these questions from before.

God is not who "reduced" man's lifespan to 70-80, man is who reduces it by unhealthy living.

Nowhere in that verse does it even indicate that God reset the age limit to 70-80. If you'll notice, the verse in the Psalm was Moses complaining because of the terrible conditions all around them. Moses is not speaking for God there, he was speaking to God.

He even says further down, "teach us to number our days aright...". He was clearly asking God for help, not speaking on behalf of God, as the verse in Genesis where it says "Then the LORD said...".

I do not understand this quote as it was not one of your own quotes but cardcaptor quote in which I had responded to in an earlier post as I did not agree with his assessment of it. How do you stand on what he said in the above quote?

I feel very bad about your confusion problems and, if I thought it would actually help you, I would.

You mean to tell me that you couldn't simply tell me what you meant when you said, Where's your "validation"? Mine is the written word of God. Is it better for me to ask and let you give me what you meant by it or is it best for me to just take a guess at what you meant and let me interpret it however and have to pay the piper later on if I get it wrong. I was trying not to let that happen. I question you feeling bad for me.

OC

You say it's me, I say it's you.

I'm perfectly willing to call it a complete lack of communication between the two of us and also,

obviously, a difference in opinions.

You want to continue this little game, continue with someone else.

Have a nice day.