The fate of Homosexuals?

[Floatingaxe]

My Uncle is a homosexual, and as you can imagine this is hard for me because I love him very much. He's so incredibly funny, and fun to be around, that it kills me to think of this lifestyle he is stuck in.

So I have this question: Do you think that homosexuals, if they believe in Jesus, will go to hell?

I know that 1 Cor 6:9 says "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inhereit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved. Niether fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulturers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites (male homosexuals).....10 will inherit the kingdom of God."

I always have thought that verse means exactly what it says, until I came across this verse: Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

Which would obviously mean that a homosexual cannot experience those things while in that sin. Please tell me what you think on this subject. Thanks!

Be Blessed,

~Aaron

One cant tell who is saved or not so all you can do is make sure they acknowledge Jesus Christ as

their saviour and let Him do the rest.

A redeemed life reveals Christ by its fruit. No fruit? Then it's safe to say one is not walking with Christ, and needs to be introduced to the Saviour proper.

Jesus regenerates, otherwise you have a false convert.

It's not up to Jesus to "do the rest". It's up to us to disciple a person in Christ. Jesus tells us to do that.

[exrockstar]

My Uncle is a homosexual, and as you can imagine this is hard for me because I love him very much. He's so incredibly funny, and fun to be around, that it kills me to think of this lifestyle he is stuck in.

So I have this question: Do you think that homosexuals, if they believe in Jesus, will go to hell?

I know that 1 Cor 6:9 says "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inhereit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved. Niether fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulturers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites (male homosexuals).....10 will inherit the kingdom of God."

I always have thought that verse means exactly what it says, until I came across this verse: Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

Which would obviously mean that a homosexual cannot experience those things while in that sin. Please tell me what you think on this subject. Thanks!

Be Blessed,

~Aaron

One cant tell who is saved or not so all you can do is make sure they acknowledge Jesus Christ as

their saviour and let Him do the rest.

A redeemed life reveals Christ by its fruit. No fruit? Then it's safe to say one is not walking with Christ, and needs to be introduced to the Saviour proper.

Jesus regenerates, otherwise you have a false convert.

It's not up to Jesus to "do the rest". It's up to us to disciple a person in Christ. Jesus tells us to do that.

i'll let you keep doing the condemnation.

no one is talking about embracing what someone else does but im not saying to damn people either.

didnt Christ tell someone not to condemn for they might enter the kingdom before you.

it's some thing like that.

[Smalcald]

If your uncle is born again, homosexual, but remains celibate, and prays for Divine help with his homosexuality, I don't see any reason G-d would shut him out of the Kingdom. Everybody has their fleshly struggles.

[FighterforJC]

My Uncle is a homosexual, and as you can imagine this is hard for me because I love him very much. He's so incredibly funny, and fun to be around, that it kills me to think of this lifestyle he is stuck in.

So I have this question: Do you think that homosexuals, if they believe in Jesus, will go to hell?

I know that 1 Cor 6:9 says "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inhereit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved. Niether fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulturers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites (male homosexuals).....10 will inherit the kingdom of God."

I always have thought that verse means exactly what it says, until I came across this verse: Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

Which would obviously mean that a homosexual cannot experience those things while in that sin. Please tell me what you think on this subject. Thanks!

Be Blessed,

~Aaron

First of all, sin is sin, and homosexuality isn't any worse than heterosexual fornication. Unfortunately, homosexuality is a "special" problem in the sense that getting married does not resolve the sin issue. Unmarried, heterosexual couples that are sexually involved are definitely in sin, but once they get married, they are no longer in sin and can have as much sex as they want.

Your uncle needs to repent, admit that he is in sin, and turn to Christ. He needs to be born again. Getting born again won't mean that he'll instantly get freed from the bondage of homosexuality. He might struggle with it for the rest of his life, even after coming to Christ, just as straight Christians can fall into fornication themselves. It doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't genuinely saved. But the single most important thing for a homosexual is to first admit that what he's involved in is wrong instead of trying to come up with excuses and pointing the finger at God (born gay, anyone?). Once he comes to terms with the gravity of his sin then he can come to Christ, just as he is, and pray for God's forgiveness and deliverance. It is possible that he'll instantly turn his back on homosexual practices, but most likely he will continue to struggle with it, just as we continue to struggle with our own sins during our pilgrimmage here on earth. But he'll definitely spend eternity in heaven.

Edited July 3, 2007 by FighterforJC

[Floatingaxe]

My Uncle is a homosexual, and as you can imagine this is hard for me because I love him very much. He's so incredibly funny, and fun to be around, that it kills me to think of this lifestyle he is stuck in.

So I have this question: Do you think that homosexuals, if they believe in Jesus, will go to hell?

I know that 1 Cor 6:9 says "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inhereit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved. Niether fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulturers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites (male homosexuals).....10 will inherit the kingdom of God."

I always have thought that verse means exactly what it says, until I came across this verse: Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

Which would obviously mean that a homosexual cannot experience those things while in that sin. Please tell me what you think on this subject. Thanks!

Be Blessed,

~Aaron

One cant tell who is saved or not so all you can do is make sure they acknowledge Jesus Christ as

their saviour and let Him do the rest.

A redeemed life reveals Christ by its fruit. No fruit? Then it's safe to say one is not walking with Christ, and needs to be introduced to the Saviour proper.

Jesus regenerates, otherwise you have a false convert.

It's not up to Jesus to "do the rest". It's up to us to disciple a person in Christ. Jesus tells us to do that.

i'll let you keep doing the condemnation.

no one is talking about embracing what someone else does but im not saying to damn people either.

No one is damning anyone. You do that yourself.

[Floatingaxe]

Working at celibacy isn't necessary. Jesus heals and restores, and frees people from homosexuality.

[exrockstar]

i'll let you keep doing the condemnation.

no one is talking about embracing what someone else does but im not saying to damn people either.

No one is damning anyone. You do that yourself.

ok you win

[Smalcald]

I know several people who have had unbiblical divorces, I also know people who are living together in sin, I know several women and men who have had children out of wedlock, now in all of these cases do I say to them, have you repented, I need to hear it to believe you? If not well than it is obvious to ME that you are going to hell and do not have salvation.

No I don't say that. The Word of God is clear if anybody has read the Word they know that to live in these things without repentance would mean that one does not have faith. Paul also tells us not to speculate who will go to heaven and who will go to hell, he says turn our eyes on ourselves in these matters.

[Smalcald]

Working at celibacy isn't necessary. Jesus heals and restores, and frees people from homosexuality.

Are you saying that we will be free from all temptation? Are you free from all temptation to sin?

I don't think that is what scripture says. Homosexuality is no different from any other sin.

[Vickilynn]

Paul also tells us not to speculate who will go to heaven and who will go to hell, he says turn our eyes on ourselves in these matters.

Shalom Smalcald,

The OP's question is valid. It is not wrong to ask these questions here.

The question is, does someone in willful sin go to Heaven? The Bible says no.

1 Corinthians 6

9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.