Porn

[Sconzy]

i get a feeling it depends whats happening in the pic.

...and between one's ears...

[freedfromsin]

Interesting replies. I see that most feel that porn is brought about when there is intent to draw some intention in a sensual or sexual manner. Does this mean then that most women who seek to draw attention to themselves by cleavage tight clothing or short dress' are promoting porn? Or if not when is a woman promoting self porn?

[Guest Biblicist]

I truly cannot stand porno it destroys familys and people from the inside out.

BE BLESSED,

ZOE

Zoe, Honey,

It's not the porn that destroys the families. It's the heart of the person who is drawn to it. Sin, dear child, is what destroys families and people.

Families can be destroyed by the infomercials on television by the "lust" for things. It's no different. And no less painful.

"For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he." Proverbs 23:7a

[MrLuke]

There is a difference between appreciating beauty... Nude art for instance, in my opinion, isn't "porn"...

Ah finally, another Christian who thinks this! I love art and making art and often times just drawing the beauty of the human body is enough in itself for a wonderful peice. God has created us all beautiful - it is porn that tries to do the opposite of what God intended by making nudity a dirty thing.

Porn, I would say, is people in sexually explicit positions or actual video footage of sexual acts. Things that will cause lustful thoughts and actions in yourself.

If viewing nude art does this for you, then I wouldn't show it to people who would stumble because of it. The whole 'meat offered to idols' thing.

[None]

There is a difference between appreciating beauty... Nude art for instance, in my opinion, isn't "porn"...

Ah finally, another Christian who thinks this! I love art and making art and often times just drawing the beauty of the human body is enough in itself for a wonderful peice. God has created us all beautiful - it is porn that tries to do the opposite of what God intended by making nudity a dirty thing.

Porn, I would say, is people in sexually explicit positions or actual video footage of sexual acts. Things that will cause lustful thoughts and actions in yourself.

If viewing nude art does this for you, then I wouldn't show it to people who would stumble because of it. The whole 'meat offered to idols' thing.

I would love to agree with you here, but in our society today, on nearly every channel, on billboards and even women's magazines, women are portrayed as sex objects and men are posing in idolic and inticing positions, half dressed. What are people supposed to think. There's a reason for the cover-up dresscodes in certain cultures even today. People all over the world know that lack of clothing is suggestive towards the bedroom, this is why many stricter religious groups cover their women to the extremes. Do all the men in these groups have a corrupt heart already, do they need these limits because of their own horrible sex addictions? or are they trying to keep their hearts and their minds pure.

I love a good black and white movie. When you look at what was viewed in those days as sinful and what is viewed today as sinful, you'd be amazed at the extent of acceptence society has allowed in the area of sexual imorality.

Since there is so much corruption, much more than there was way back then, we need to be even more careful what we, as artists, put out there for people to view.

I have a close family member who is so addicted to porn, he has porn as his computer screensaver. When he meets a women, the only thing he can think of is what it would be like...it's that bad. It tears my heart out to see this and I see it everywhere, not getting better, getting worse. It needs to be tamed down. A lot. I've already made changes as to what I will paint and what I will not. What I'll take pictures of and what I will not. God touched my heart and persuaded me in this direction. I had thought like you are thinking, that artistic nudity was beautiful. There's a much bigger picture.

[MrLuke]

There is a difference between appreciating beauty... Nude art for instance, in my opinion, isn't "porn"...

Ah finally, another Christian who thinks this! I love art and making art and often times just drawing the beauty of the human body is enough in itself for a wonderful peice. God has created us all beautiful - it is porn that tries to do the opposite of what God intended by making nudity a dirty thing.

Porn, I would say, is people in sexually explicit positions or actual video footage of sexual acts. Things that will cause lustful thoughts and actions in yourself.

If viewing nude art does this for you, then I wouldn't show it to people who would stumble because of it. The whole 'meat offered to idols' thing.

I would love to agree with you here, but in our society today, on nearly every channel, on billboards and even women's magazines, women are portrayed as sex objects and men are posing in idolic and inticing positions, half dressed. What are people supposed to think. There's a reason for the cover-up dresscodes in certain cultures even today. People all over the world know that lack of clothing is suggestive towards the bedroom, this is why many stricter religious groups cover their women to the extremes. Do all the men in these groups have a corrupt heart already, do they need these limits because of their own horrible sex addictions? or are they trying to keep their hearts and their minds pure.

I love a good black and white movie. When you look at what was viewed in those days as sinful and what is viewed today as sinful, you'd be amazed at the extent of acceptence society has allowed in the area of sexual imorality.

Since there is so much corruption, much more than there was way back then, we need to be even more careful what we, as artists, put out there for people to view.

I have a close family member who is so addicted to porn, he has porn as his computer screensaver. When he meets a women, the only thing he can think of is what it would be like...it's that bad. It tears my heart out to see this and I see it everywhere, not getting better, getting worse. It needs to be tamed down. A lot. I've already made changes as to what I will paint and what I will not. What I'll take pictures of and what I will not. God touched my heart and persuaded me in this direction. I had thought like you are thinking, that artistic nudity was beautiful. There's a much bigger picture.

Oh I know society has crumbled morally, and that there is a bigger picture to it all. It is terrible that you can't look anywhere nowsdays and not see sex used in some way to promote products. It's sad. In some cases though when being with people, and adverts have some on the TV with "sex sales" that people now are so used to it, they are going the opposite way and saying "what's the point in using a man/woman there?" - not always but I have noticed it.

I too, am careful about what I would draw/paint/photograph, because I don't want it to be taken the wrong way nor for it to be used in a tainted immoral way either.

Oh for the good old days...

[None]

There is a difference between appreciating beauty... Nude art for instance, in my opinion, isn't "porn"...

Ah finally, another Christian who thinks this! I love art and making art and often times just drawing the beauty of the human body is enough in itself for a wonderful peice. God has created us all beautiful - it is porn that tries to do the opposite of what God intended by making nudity a dirty thing.

Porn, I would say, is people in sexually explicit positions or actual video footage of sexual acts. Things that will cause lustful thoughts and actions in yourself.

If viewing nude art does this for you, then I wouldn't show it to people who would stumble because of it. The whole 'meat offered to idols' thing.

I would love to agree with you here, but in our society today, on nearly every channel, on billboards and even women's magazines, women are portrayed as sex objects and men are posing in idolic and inticing positions, half dressed. What are people supposed to think. There's a reason for the cover-up dresscodes in certain cultures even today. People all over the world know that lack of clothing is suggestive towards the bedroom, this is why many stricter religious groups cover their women to the extremes. Do all the men in these groups have a corrupt heart already, do they need these limits because of their own horrible sex addictions? or are they trying to keep their hearts and their minds pure.

I love a good black and white movie. When you look at what was viewed in those days as sinful and what is viewed today as sinful, you'd be amazed at the extent of acceptence society has allowed in the area of sexual imorality.

Since there is so much corruption, much more than there was way back then, we need to be even more careful what we, as artists, put out there for people to view.

I have a close family member who is so addicted to porn, he has porn as his computer screensaver. When he meets a women, the only thing he can think of is what it would be like...it's that bad. It tears my heart out to see this and I see it everywhere, not getting better, getting worse. It needs to be tamed down. A lot. I've already made changes as to what I will paint and what I will not. What I'll take pictures of and what I will not. God touched my heart and persuaded me in this direction. I had thought like you are thinking, that artistic nudity was beautiful. There's a much bigger picture.

Oh I know society has crumbled morally, and that there is a bigger picture to it all. It is terrible that you can't look anywhere nowsdays and not see sex used in some way to promote products. It's sad. In some cases though when being with people, and adverts have some on the TV with "sex sales" that people now are so used to it, they are going the opposite way and saying "what's the point in using a man/woman there?" - not always but I have noticed it.

I too, am careful about what I would draw/paint/photograph, because I don't want it to be taken the wrong way nor for it to be used in a tainted immoral way either.

Oh for the good old days...

Fortunately, our future with Christ is even better and brighter than those old days of the past.

[Iryssa]

Interesting replies. I see that most feel that porn is brought about when there is intent to draw some intention in a sensual or sexual manner. Does this mean then that most women who seek to draw attention to themselves by cleavage tight clothing or short dress' are promoting porn? Or if not when is a woman promoting self porn?

Dictionary.com defines pornography as:

"obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit."

Pornography is in some sort of media, so, by definition, no, skimpy outfits on live, walking people you see at the mall would not be pornographic. They may indeed be trying to draw sexual attention to themselves (though there are many who don't even realize what they're doing), but no, by definition they are not pornographic.

Promoting self-porn?? Again I think you have to look at the definition of pornography...and I don't think "self-porn" is really a necessary term. If they're in pornographic material, then they're helping out the porn industry, if that's what you mean.

However, I think what you mean is "when are these women deliberately drawing sexual attention to themselves in a negative way?" In which case, I would say "what is their intention?" We can't always know that just by looking at their clothes, but in their mannerisms it can sometimes become obvious. However, I would caution anyone against jumping to conclusions about girls based on their clothes...many of them are simply lost and in great pain, seeking love where they think it might be found, probably because they haven't had proper love from a proper father at home to show them that they're worth more than their bodies. "Their hearts still beat inside," as Brave Saint Saturn would say.

[jodycour]

I think that we all need the purification of our hearts, then nothing that is in appropriate will affect us.

The world is getting worse and worse, but the bible predicts that this would happen, so we need guard our hearts and protect it like our life depended on it! It does, our spiritual life depends upon it!

Worship the Creator, not His creation!

Edited July 13, 2007 by jodycour

[Ryal]

To me anything can be pornography. A love novel, a fitness magazine, a post card, anything really. It is how the person viewing it intends on using it. I have some fitness mags that have some very racy pictures in it for fitness purposes but to someone looking for a thrill, there you go a magazine meant for health and exercise just turned into a porn.