The God Who Wasnt There!

[MorningGlory]

It's actually because were one to condemn another because of an inherent weakness that made it impossible for him not to behave in a certain way, we would be labelled as unjust. But when Yahweh acts in the same way, we unqestioningly accept it. Why? I had no choice or control in "Adam's" actions, why should I be punished by it?

Because you're 'faithquestions' and He is God.

Oh, and you don't HAVE to be punished, FQ; all you have to do is repent, confess with your mouth your belief that Jesus is the Son of God, that He was crucified for all of our sins, was resurrected and ascended to Heaven, and that you accept Him as your Savior. His hand is extended to anyone who wishes to take it.

[MorningGlory]

It's actually because were one to condemn another because of an inherent weakness that made it impossible for him not to behave in a certain way, we would be labelled as unjust. But when Yahweh acts in the same way, we unquestioningly accept it. Why? I had no choice or control in "Adam's" actions, why should I be punished by it?

Because you're 'faithquestions' and He is God.

So a judgment that defies all other concepts of justice is permissible because God thinks it? Makes morality somewhat relative doesn't it?

We are subject to His laws; He is not subject to ours. And He did give us a free pass to Heaven, FQ; free for anyone willing to believe in Him. I think that's pretty fair.

[Grungekid]

The God Who Wasn't There is an independent documentary written and directed by Brian Flemming which questions the existence of Jesus and examines evidence that supports the theory that the historical Jesus did not exist. Portrayed as a "guide through the bizarre world of Christianity", The God Who Wasn't There has generated significant controversy. According to the film's official website, the aim of the documentary is to hold "modern Christianity up to a merciless spotlight."

Quote from its website

In this provocative, critically acclaimed documentary, you will discover:

The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus

The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults

Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion

Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes

And God simply isn't there

I need effective study against that toxic movie and also I need anti-atheism studies specially that defend our faith against thoughts like "Jesus is a Myth", "Jesus didn't historically exist"....

Pray for me.

Know only that this makes even the most secular of learned historians peel out in laughter. These men are total frauds, believe me, I have heard of all this before. I thought for sure Richard Dawkins would be in there somewhere.

None of them have any place in any argument anywhere. There is an abundance of evidence for Jesus as an actual figure in history, besides the fact that our dating system is based around Him.

Take these as helpful reminders of the fallacies of extremist atheism:

http://www.christiancadre.org/topics/historicaljesus.html

http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Figure-Je...s/dp/0140144994

Sanders isn't Christian that I am aware, but he does acknowledge Jesus as a person of undoubtable historicity.

Also consider these verses:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me."

John 14:6

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness...

Romans 1:18

Another thing to ponder is what Brendon Boyd says in 'When it Comes' about mental piracy!

Edited September 8, 2007 by Grungekid