Women pastors

[RustyAngeL]

I think discussion is fine. But God's word does not change. It says that women are to be silent in the church, meaning that they are not to be over men. Teachers, speakers, even evangelist, pastors no.

[patricia1]

where does it say that a woman cannot be ordained as a pastor? It also says that anyone a head of a church needs to have his house in order...his wife...his children...his finances and so on. That eliminates a awful lot of pastors. Seducing spirits to seduce whom and it what way. Awoman ministered to christ... not a man but a woman. Apparently I am obselete cos you never answered any of my statements...questions. God commands us to procreate, Paul says it is better to stay single. A Jackass ministered to Baalam. Holy Spirit has no gender.We wouldn't have salvation if it wasn't for esther. c'mon talk to me

[patricia1]

I think discussion is fine. But God's word does not change. It says that women are to be silent in the church, meaning that they are not to be over men. Teachers, speakers, even evangelist, pastors no.

I believe He was talking to a congregant. Men sat on one side and woman sat on the other. Not until this new religion "christianity" were woman allowed in the synagogue. They did not understand what was being said ( the woman ) or what was being done. They had never been there and were looking to their husbands explanations aloud. At least when we bring a new convert they can sit with us and we may whisper..., but that to can be a distraction. patrish

[patricia1]

I think discussion is fine. But God's word does not change. It says that women are to be silent in the church, meaning that they are not to be over men. Teachers, speakers, even evangelist, pastors no.

I believe He was talking to a congregant. Men sat on one side and woman sat on the other. Not until this new religion "christianity" were woman allowed in the synagogue. They did not understand what was being said ( the woman ) or what was being done. They had never been there and were looking to their husbands explanations aloud. At least when we bring a new convert they can sit with us and we may whisper..., but that to can be a distraction. patrish

by the way to be really technical...I do not goto synogue. That word ther needs to be looked up!

[patricia1]

Hello there brothers ans sisters. Number one I would like to say that there is a curse for anyone who adds to the words of God and to one who takes away from the words of God.. its in Revelations.

2nd The word URSURP i think needs to be defined here. I won't get into the greek. It means to seize by FORCE, without LEGAL AUTHORITY! To possess wrongfully. I have yet known a woman to do that personally and I most certainly have never overpowered a mans authority. Just because we are christians does not mean we are perfect and do not have human frailities.

Has anyone here been in the audience of katherine kuhlman. The recorded reflection of light in her eyes should not be considered demonic even today it is hard to get the red out of the eyes of pictures. Satan cannot cast out satan. Demons fleed in her presence. If you were not there hold back on your judgement please.

3. the christian church and the bride are two different things. The church is falling apart due to the fact it is complacent...lost its first love and seeking what can be given and not the giver. The bride Is making herself ready. Remeber one is left, two christians are walking together there. Remember the story of the 10 virgins. half were ready. So I consider it dismal to have a chuch full of believers and the possibility of 50% not making it. Then You have God saying it will be hard to find a man of faith in the last days.

4. If God can speak through a donkey , He can speak through anyone He pleases. He said even the rocks and stones would cry out. The earth cries for redemtion

5. Jesus came through Mary due to the Fact that Josephs line was cursed, (his sperm through jeconiah)

6. God told adam not to eat of the tree...adam was standing right there while eve plucked the fruit took a bite and HANDED it to Adam, although eve was made aware adam did nothing to stop her.

7esther saved the hebrew race, rahab did a mighty work as well. Jesus may have picked out both men and woman if men thought woman as a little more than chattle.. FOR APOSTLES THAT IS

it says that your children will dream dreamsect. not your boys. and the word man is used to mean both look it up wHEN tHE lORD gOD lOOKED DOEWN AND REGRETED hE MADE MAN....DID THAT EXCLUDE EVE?

[Guest LadyC]

hi patricia,

i think when you try to respond in a thread, you're hitting the wrong button... and that instead of hitting "reply" you're unintentionally posting as a new topic.

welcome to worthyboards, by the way

[Ovedya]

just a thought.......

who was the first one..... THATS RIGHT, THE FIRST ONE.... to preach Christ Resurrected....

who was the one that was the first human to have the knowledge of The Resurrection and then started sharing it with others (preaching it, teaching it, proclaiming it).....

mike

Nothing wrong at all with preaching Christ and Him crucified. That is a subject which all believers - regardless of gender - have been commanded to do.

Yet that is an issue separate from the doctrinal teachings of the church.

[Ovedya]

where does it say that a woman cannot be ordained as a pastor? It also says that anyone a head of a church needs to have his house in order...his wife...his children...his finances and so on. That eliminates a awful lot of pastors. Seducing spirits to seduce whom and it what way. Awoman ministered to christ... not a man but a woman. Apparently I am obselete cos you never answered any of my statements...questions. God commands us to procreate, Paul says it is better to stay single. A Jackass ministered to Baalam. Holy Spirit has no gender.We wouldn't have salvation if it wasn't for esther. c'mon talk to me

"I do not permit a woman to teach or assert authority over a man."

Is that the Bible or not?

If you find conflict then the issue is really with you, not with the Bible, which is the complete Word of God.

[firehill]

just a thought.......

who was the first one..... THATS RIGHT, THE FIRST ONE.... to preach Christ Resurrected....

who was the one that was the first human to have the knowledge of The Resurrection and then started sharing it with others (preaching it, teaching it, proclaiming it).....

mike

Nothing wrong at all with preaching Christ and Him crucified. That is a subject which all believers - regardless of gender - have been commanded to do.

Yet that is an issue separate from the doctrinal teachings of the church.

If a woman can preach Christ wouldn't that include all things about him??? Why he came, about his Father, his death and resurrection, his kingdom, his inheritance, his everything??? What about all the things Paul said about him? Can a woman not teach those things to? Would these 'doctrinal teachings' you speak of exclude ALL the teachings of Christ (his commandments, his parables, his teachings on his Father and himself, thier oneness, his teachings on the kingdom, his healings, his miracles, his miracles of deliverance, his Lordship...) that were received by his disciples, male and female? Isn't it ALL HIS?

Was a woman who learned from him as a disciple of his also excluded to teach others what she was taught by him? Such things as these are the most important doctrinal teachings of the church. So are women excluded form teaching them? Were his female disciples? Did he exclude them from teaching what he taught them, and his everything?

[Ovedya]

just a thought.......

who was the first one..... THATS RIGHT, THE FIRST ONE.... to preach Christ Resurrected....

who was the one that was the first human to have the knowledge of The Resurrection and then started sharing it with others (preaching it, teaching it, proclaiming it).....

mike

Nothing wrong at all with preaching Christ and Him crucified. That is a subject which all believers - regardless of gender - have been commanded to do.

Yet that is an issue separate from the doctrinal teachings of the church.

If a woman can preach Christ wouldn't that include all things about him??? Why he came, about his Father, his death and resurrection, his kingdom, his inheritance, his everything??? What about all the things Paul said about him? Can a woman not teach those things to? Would these 'doctrinal teachings' you speak of exclude ALL the teachings of Christ (his commandments, his parables, his teachings on his Father and himself, thier oneness, his teachings on the kingdom, his healings, his miracles, his miracles of deliverance, his Lordship...) that were received by his disciples, male and female? Was a woman who learned from him as a disciple of his also excluded to teach others what she was taught by him?

Such things as these are the most important doctrinal teachings of the church. So are women excluded form teaching them? Were his female disciples? Did he exclude them from teaching what he taught them, and his everything?

There is a vast difference between preaching the gospel of Christ (Which is simply "The Messiah has come and He is Him") and teaching (Which are two differing words in the Greek) of the doctrines of the church. One is simply delivering the good news and the other is giving a "didactic discourse" of the doctrines of Christ's church.

Modern-day (that is, at least the past 30 years or so) "preaching" has confused and blurred the line between the two things. Although there were very clear differences between preaching the gospel and teaching in the early church, the modern church has re-interpreted the verses in 1 Tim. according to modern-day practices. The church has gotten entirely to loose in its teaching of the doctrines of the church.