Women pastors

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joyce meyers is very good.she reaches a lot of people because she is "down to earth".your loss if you don't like her!

preacher, teacher, she beats her competition on this forum by a landslide!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was not aware that sound teaching of God's Word was a "competition". As I said above, when you question women preachers their supporters get very angry. I am trying to help you move away from false teaching and your throw insults.

sw

And what group does not throw insults when their own pet doctrines are brought into serious question? This is the nature of the beast which every man (and woman) is who has not yet overcome their own flesh as Christ overcame His

[Rumple]

Shalom Ruth,

Harlot is a less offensive word meaning the same as the "w" word. In fact, several translations use it.

Boggle

Smile Brother Johnf

[Rumple]

Shalom Ruth,

Harlot is a less offensive word meaning the same as the "w" word. In fact, several translations use it.

Boggle

Smile Brother Johnf

[st. Worm]

joyce meyers is very good.she reaches a lot of people because she is "down to earth".your loss if you don't like her!

preacher, teacher, she beats her competition on this forum by a landslide!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was not aware that sound teaching of God's Word was a "competition". As I said above, when you question women preachers their supporters get very angry. I am trying to help you move away from false teaching and your throw insults.

sw

And what group does not throw insults when their own pet doctrines are brought into serious question? This is the nature of the beast which every man (and woman) is who has not yet overcome their own flesh as Christ overcame His

I hate returning to this thread to answer something so silly. Are you seriously saying this issue is nothing but a thread about "pet doctrines"? Please read my postings concerning the sad consequences incurred by denominations that have ordained women as pastors and then I hope you will have enough sense to upgrade your comment. Also with regard to insults there have been accusations of sexism towards those of us who know the Bible prohibits women from being pastors. Also if you want to hear real insults go into one those churches and and try to discuss the issue. That is not even allowed in those so called open minded churches.

sw

[Rumple]

Shalom Ruth,

Harlot is a less offensive word meaning the same as the "w" word. In fact, several translations use it.

Boggle

Keep smiling Brother Johnf!

[Rumple]

But we all know the scriptures which discuss who should be ordained, after reading those I don't know what else there is to discuss?

Yes we do!

Never women

Never unmarried men

Never unmarried men without children

And if a husband's wife dies who is a pastor then he needs to step down too! It's so simple.

Yes, we know, don't we!

Do we live by knowledge rather than by faith?

[Rumple]

Again, Let's please dispense with the Red Herrings of Muslim women, Muslim beliefs and get back back to the topic at hand of women CHRISTIAN pastors.

Does anyone remember Rachel as a pastor?

"And while he yet spake with them, Rachel came with her father's sheep: for she kept them." Gen 29:9

Isn't a keeper of sheep a pastor?

[st. Worm]

Again, Let's please dispense with the Red Herrings of Muslim women, Muslim beliefs and get back back to the topic at hand of women CHRISTIAN pastors.

Does anyone remember Rachel as a pastor?

"And while he yet spake with them, Rachel came with her father's sheep: for she kept them." Gen 29:9

Isn't a keeper of sheep a pastor?

Why is it that every verse you women pastor people use to back your position is such an incredible stretch or grotesquely twisted to mean something it does not mean while you ignore the clear verses that oppose you? Unbelievable.

sw

[methinkshe]

Again, Let's please dispense with the Red Herrings of Muslim women, Muslim beliefs and get back back to the topic at hand of women CHRISTIAN pastors.

Does anyone remember Rachel as a pastor?

"And while he yet spake with them, Rachel came with her father's sheep: for she kept them." Gen 29:9

Isn't a keeper of sheep a pastor?

No. A keeper of sheep is a shepherd or shepherdess. A pastor is a spiritual overseer. Or does your local sheep farmer call himself a pastor? Attempting to take metaphors and/or symbolism literally can only end in confusion. Jesus says: "how I long to gather you under my wings..." Does that make Jesus a bird? No. Nor does Rachel keeping sheep make her a pastor.

Ruth

[Rumple]

Sorry, I do not get any of that from Scripture. I would not dance and shout and float about in my home - that is not my nature - so why should I do it in a public gathering such as church? Am I to become a different person, to leave all inhibitions at the church door and just let go and do that (well, copy that, to be honest, because I have no personal inclination) which I would not even do in my own home? The only time I have done that is under the influence of alcohol when all inhibitions were abandoned, of which I am mightily ashamed. Is not one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, self-control? Should I really lose all inhibitions in church and then call it worship?

Ruth

I do not believe that self-control is listed as a fruit of the Spirit. There should be 12 per Rev 22:2. The ones named are probably all found in;Gal 5:22-23, Eph 5:9, Phil 1:11, Rom 5:4, II Cor 6:6, II Peter 1:5-7, Col 3:12.

If anyone is to be in control it is God's Spirit within us. Our own control will lead us to sin every time.