ayin jade Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Angels would not use probes like the "abductees" report. Nor does any angel instill terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,513 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/05/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1908 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Daniel was terrified by an angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaging Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Angels would not use probes like the "abductees" report. Nor does any angel instill terror. Angels instill great terror in people that are not saved. --Most of the world is not saved. Matthew 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. Matthew 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: Matthew 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. Angel seems to have scared them so much they fainted. Well, if God uses His angels as caretakers of earth and the human race, the probes would be needed to determine the health of the people in a given area. Then it could be ascertained if certain chemicals or whatever were needed to be added to the soil and absorbed by the crops to put it in the diet. If the angels are responsible for keeping the population healthy if they are to be blessed (or to punish a population because of sin) the probes would be useful in determining the population's health or to make them healthier or sicker depending on whether they are to be blessed for righteousness or punished for sin. What is stated in Revelation is similar to the alien implant that is shoved up the nose to the forehead region, and is reported by abductees and seen in x ray photos of abductees. Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 An angel is a messenger of God. I highly doubt that a messenger of God would rape people like the abductees claim. Nor would they need to use probes to "determine the health" of people. God knows all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Grace to you, Angels do not terrorize anyone within the context that you are using. The men who came into contact with them were in Awe not in terror. Even when sent to punish it was not to terrorize rather to mete out what was left to those who are disobedient to God and continue on in their rebellion. That is called a fearful expectation of Judgement. The fear of the Lord. A reverent awe for those whom He Loves and a known expectation of Judgement because He is Holy. Now as for probes and such. That's just plain silly. God see's and knows all He doesn't need to probe anyone. He knows their hearts and what is in a man. He also readily knows what their current physical condition is. Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eve Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 203 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/19/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God caused the worldwide flood in the days of Noah to destroy them all saved Noah's family because those sons of God were fallen angels that left their first estate to lust after women and their offspring were the result of the seeds of the devils and they grew up to be utterly evil. Only Noah's generation was not contaminated by the seeds of the devil so they were preserved to repropagate the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaging Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Grace to you, Angels do not terrorize anyone within the context that you are using. The men who came into contact with them were in Awe not in terror. Even when sent to punish it was not to terrorize rather to mete out what was left to those who are disobedient to God and continue on in their rebellion. That is called a fearful expectation of Judgement. The fear of the Lord. A reverent awe for those whom He Loves and a known expectation of Judgement because He is Holy. Now as for probes and such. That's just plain silly. God see's and knows all He doesn't need to probe anyone. He knows their hearts and what is in a man. He also readily knows what their current physical condition is. Peace, Dave God does know all, but His angels don't know all. 1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. More evidence that angels don't know all: Daniel 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. Only Michael the arch angel knew the future prophecy conscerning Israel as well as the angel that spoke to Daniel. That means there was no other angel that knew it that well. --Angels don't know all. God knows all, but His angels don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaging Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God caused the worldwide flood in the days of Noah to destroy them all saved Noah's family because those sons of God were fallen angels that left their first estate to lust after women and their offspring were the result of the seeds of the devils and they grew up to be utterly evil. Only Noah's generation was not contaminated by the seeds of the devil so they were preserved to repropagate the earth. Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. There is nothing in that scripture about the angels leaving their first estate that says it is refering to the sons of God class angels in Genesis chapter 6. It don't say that. From the context of the scriptures above and below it, you don't see the time to be before the flood either. Jude 1:6 is a general statement about the fallen angels; there is no reference to what is said in Genesis chapter 6. The sons of God were not fallen angels; that is why they were called sons of God. The sons of God did not perish in the flood of Noah. Being angels they could use their aircraft to fly away. The children of those sons of God may have perished in Noah's flood, but only if they lived that long. They could have died of old age before the flood started. The oldest man known from the scriptures to die in Noah's flood was Methuselah, he lived 969 years. I repeat this. Devils don't have physical bodies anywhere in the whole Bible. The fallen angels don't have physical bodies; the fallen angels are the devils. If they don't have physical bodies they cannot have sex with earth women. Devils use the minds and bodies of others. The angels of God do have physical bodies and they can have sex with earth women. The sons of God are God's angels; they are not devils. fallen is biblical terminology for killed (fallen in battle, fell by the edge of the sword etc.) The fallen angels or devils were probably killed and lost their physical bodies when they were defeated in heaven by Michael and his angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2007 Sex outside of marriage is a sin. God would not ok that kind of contact. Also the intercourse in Genesis 6 was not praised, it was condemned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 6, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 6, 2007 "Fallen" means that the holy angels have chosen to step out of glory and into sin's degradation. They have FALLEN FROM GRACE. Angels were not killed. Have you been reading too much fiction or watching too many movies? Spirit doesn't die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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