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I am currently in the military and we have what what you call a socialist type of health care system. Yet the quality of the military healthcare system sucks bad and you do not get the kind of care you get from civilian sector doctors. Many in the military refuse to use military doctors and wind up paying out of pocket to use civilian health care were they know they will get good treatment.

Having a government health care system will turn out just like all other government health care systems. The quality of care will dramatically reduce. Just to see a doctor will take months. See Canada's healthcare system. Its broke just all the other ones. US has the greatest health care system on the plant, yet liberals still scream bloody murder. I think liberals should join the military life to get a taste of socialism.

As far as the poor not having health care in the US is a bunch of bull. No doctor will refuse a patient based on income.

Liberals call themselves liberals but in reality they are all about government control. They want the government to control healthcare, schools, media, freemarket and everything else. What is free about being enslaved by your government.

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Can another conservative join this thread, please? I have said all I wanted to say.

Tell me if I'm a crazy "liberal" or not. (I don't consider myself liberal, but I most certainly feel like one on WB.)

You seem like a liberal to me, but I have only seen you give your opinion in a couple of areas. You say you don't consider yourself liberal? Who did you vote for in the last 4 Presidential elections? That should give us some idea if you are a liberal or not? :emot-pray:

Ha, last 4 presidential elections. I just turned 22. :)

Abortion. Wrong.

Illegal immigration. Tighten up the border.

Helping the needy. Of course.

Environmental conservation. Reduce pollution.

Hate crime laws. Agree with.


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Can another conservative join this thread, please? I have said all I wanted to say.

Tell me if I'm a crazy "liberal" or not. (I don't consider myself liberal, but I most certainly feel like one on WB.)

You seem like a liberal to me, but I have only seen you give your opinion in a couple of areas. You say you don't consider yourself liberal? Who did you vote for in the last 4 Presidential elections? That should give us some idea if you are a liberal or not? :emot-pray:

Ha, last 4 presidential elections. I just turned 22. :)

Abortion. Wrong.

Illegal immigration. Tighten up the border.

Helping the needy. Of course.

Environmental conservation. Reduce pollution.

Hate crime laws. Agree with.

When you say abortion is wrong, does that mean you support making it illegal? Who did you vote for in the last Presidential election, and are you a registered Democrat, Republican, or Independent? What candidate are you leaning toward in 2008?

Yes, make it illegal.

I won't say who I voted for. It wasn't Kerry. I am also registered with none of the above. :24:

Eh, maybe switch over to McCain?


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The Civilian Conservation Corps was probably the best program created by the government to give money to those in need - by giving them a job.

But do they find them a job or give them a job that is paid for with tax payer money? If it is the latter, I would be against it.

Where does the money for the people working in the military come from? The national park rangers? The people working in the Dept. of Urban Housing and Development?


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Can another conservative join this thread, please? I have said all I wanted to say.

Tell me if I'm a crazy "liberal" or not. (I don't consider myself liberal, but I most certainly feel like one on WB.)

You seem like a liberal to me, but I have only seen you give your opinion in a couple of areas. You say you don't consider yourself liberal? Who did you vote for in the last 4 Presidential elections? That should give us some idea if you are a liberal or not? :thumbsup:

Ha, last 4 presidential elections. I just turned 22. :)

Abortion. Wrong.

Illegal immigration. Tighten up the border.

Helping the needy. Of course.

Environmental conservation. Reduce pollution.

Hate crime laws. Agree with.

Based on these positions, you are conservative on abortion, and immigration if you opposed the recent amnesty bill. You are liberal when it comes to government sponsored welfare. While it is thought to be a liberal view to want clean water and air, that is nonsence. Everyone wants that, but the defining questions come when one looks at how far we go in achieving it? I am going to guess you are liberal on this issue, but don't have enough to go by. Hate crimes laws are liberal to the core. They make it a more serious crime to harm someone because of race or sexual orientation than if they committed the same crime against someone who is of the same skin color and heterosexual. That is to me an abomination, and flies in the face of equal justice under the law. Out of 5 things you mentioned, you are conservative on 2 and liberal on 3. As a conservative, I am for outlawing abortion, securing the border, against anymore government welfare programs, against more unnecessary environmental regulations, and opposed to hate crime laws.

The reason why it's a more serious crime if you harm someone because of race (or sexual orientation, though not all places include it, to my knowledge) is that it's meant to threaten that entire group. If you think that's an abomination, then all power to you. But then again, you don't really mind living under segregation.


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Can another conservative join this thread, please? I have said all I wanted to say.

Tell me if I'm a crazy "liberal" or not. (I don't consider myself liberal, but I most certainly feel like one on WB.)

You seem like a liberal to me, but I have only seen you give your opinion in a couple of areas. You say you don't consider yourself liberal? Who did you vote for in the last 4 Presidential elections? That should give us some idea if you are a liberal or not? :thumbsup:

Ha, last 4 presidential elections. I just turned 22. :)

Abortion. Wrong.

Illegal immigration. Tighten up the border.

Helping the needy. Of course.

Environmental conservation. Reduce pollution.

Hate crime laws. Agree with.

Based on these positions, you are conservative on abortion, and immigration if you opposed the recent amnesty bill. You are liberal when it comes to government sponsored welfare. While it is thought to be a liberal view to want clean water and air, that is nonsence. Everyone wants that, but the defining questions come when one looks at how far we go in achieving it? I am going to guess you are liberal on this issue, but don't have enough to go by. Hate crimes laws are liberal to the core. They make it a more serious crime to harm someone because of race or sexual orientation than if they committed the same crime against someone who is of the same skin color and heterosexual. That is to me an abomination, and flies in the face of equal justice under the law. Out of 5 things you mentioned, you are conservative on 2 and liberal on 3. As a conservative, I am for outlawing abortion, securing the border, against anymore government welfare programs, against more unnecessary environmental regulations, and opposed to hate crime laws.

The reason why it's a more serious crime if you harm someone because of race (or sexual orientation, though not all places include it, to my knowledge) is that it's meant to threaten that entire group. If you think that's an abomination, then all power to you. But then again, you don't really mind living under segregation.

As bad as segregation is, it is better than some of the things we have today, like the legalized slaughter of innocent unborn children. Given the choice, I will take a society that protected the unborn and allowed segregation. And yes, I do consider hate crimes laws an abomination.

Then I bid you farewell to the 50's! Much less hate crime laws, environmental regulations, and welfare programs! It's almost like heaven for you! :)

Write a memoir for us to read in the next millennium.


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Oh definitely they should work and not sit on the couch all day expecting handouts. But some people simply can't afford health care even if they do work. And I believe that's the group of people we should help.

The best way to do that is to get the government out of it.


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What is this "liberal clap trap" they are teaching?

This doesn't cover it all, but I found an article that speaks on this issue, if you are interested in reading it:

The New Radicals: How Liberal Campuses Harass Conservatives


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Well, Yale has courses for gays and lesbians. But the point is, classes are taught from a liberal world view. Even back when I was in college, in a government class, they had a liberal Democrat congressman come and talk to the class, but not any Republicans. I've also heard plenty about this bias from reliable sources.

My wife took some classes at a community college, and the topic was dealing with the family. The professor was some left-wing nut job who said wives should have to earn their own money and the husband should not have to be responsible for them. He was very anti-life and extremely liberal and tried to intimidate the class into going along with his view. My wife was one of the few who took positions contrary to his on subjects like abortion, and her grade was affected. This is very common, and everyone knows it is taking place. It is like the Ward Churchill incident in Colorado where he compared 9-11 victims to Natzis.

I would have received an 'F' in that class. :taped:


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What is this "liberal clap trap" they are teaching?

This doesn't cover it all, but I found an article that speaks on this issue, if you are interested in reading it:

The New Radicals: How Liberal Campuses Harass Conservatives

That is a really good article...It infuriates me to read it, but I know its the truth. I have seen it first hand in college on many occasions. It seems that majority of our professors in college are liberal/socialist/communist and they feel its their job to indoctrinate their students in their socialist, anti-american views even if the class has nothing to do with government or politics. This is why I take most of my college online today to avoid having to deal with these liberal haters yet even online professors are still trying to indoctrinate you by forcing you to read anti-american articles and then post your views why that article is important and how dare you post something contrary to the article.

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