Naming the Name of Christ

[eric]

Thank you Fiosh for explaining where you are coming from regarding tsth's posts.....Well it's perhaps borderline, but as she states that she is more or less repeating scriptual teaching from the bible's scriptures, not claiming that, this is the way she lives her life.

Being self righteousness, to me, is trying to enforce upon others, that you are not a christian unless you live as they themselves live, thereby being further up the ladder of salvation than they are.....if you get my drift. I don't thimk that Suzanne trys to get above anybody else and I have been reading her posts since she first came to worthy.

I appreciate your problem and as you are very special to, me as a sister in Christ, I will withdraw from making any further comments on this particular thread.

You know sis, I'm a real old Teddy bear at heart and I don't like to see christians getting sucked into the adversary's snares, sooo I get a little outspoken at times.

[tsth]

I have twice given you all my testimony. I am sorry that you do not remember it, perhaps then you would understand the what this thread is about.

It IS about a new life in Christ Jesus, that will bring about great change, because of the Truth in His Word. To dismiss the power of God to change people's lifestyles, is so astounding to me. Especially since I have experienced His deliverance....and come out of darkness to live a "new" life....To promote anything other than that would be so neglectful as a Christian. We should always acknowledge the Power of our God, to be able to deliver us.

Acts 5:20

"Go, stand in the temple courts," he said, "and tell the people the full message of this new life."

Romans 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

1 Cor. 5:7 Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast--as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.

Ephesians 4:21 Surely you heard of him and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. 22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. 25 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men pour new wine into old wineskins. If they do, the skins will burst, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved."

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Scarletprayers]

And once again...........................

You know tsth, I've agreed with you about so many other things on this board, I'm just not getting "WHY" we can at least understand where the other one is coming from on this one. Maybe its just something the Lord is giving us all to work on.

[Guest shiloh357]

I would kind of have to agree with Scarletprayer and others on this thread, Suzanne. Your answers tend to be a bit evasive, even if that is not how you intend to come across.

One thing I would point out is that you cannot just throw out verses and expect others to catch or see what you see. It comes across as haughty. Once again, I don't think that is how you mean to be perceived, but on the receiving end, that is others take from it.

There used to be another man who posted on here. Remember DadErnie Suzanne? Someone would ask him a question and quite often his response would be to just pepper them with verses and he would expect them to see his point and it is a very ineffective and somewhat offputting way to make your point. You end up simply frustrating people who are genuinely trying to understand your point of view.

You need to actually start giving intellectually satisfying, DIRECT answers to the questions put to you by others in this thread and insted of the evasise almost cryptic answers you have provided if you want your position to be viewed with any degree of credibility. Otherwise you leave others with no choice but to form their opinions on the both thescant information you have provided and your conspicuous refusal to give direct answers to very simple and direct questions.

[Fiosh]

Ok, tsth, I've had a good night's sleep; went to Mass and received Holy Communion. Now I will try again, with the help of the Holy Spirit, and Christ in me, to dialogue with you as a sister in Christ, rather than as an adversary.

First, I request that you answer a few questions so I can better understand where you are coming from:

1. Do you ever sin?

2. How often do you repent of sin?

3. Do you believe that an individual with a sinful lifestyle, drug/alcohol addiction for example, can give their life to Christ yet not IMMEDIATELY & completely stop their sinful behavior?

Thank you for your consideration of these questions.

Peace,

Fiosh

[tsth]

If you are in agreement and understand the "Slaves to Righteousness" thread, then there is no further need for argument here.

I humbly withdraw from the back and forth on this thread, as I don't believe ANY amount of MY own opinions matter. If the posting of Scripture cannot be used to contend on this topic, then there is no need to go any further, and I do not intend to argue over the Word of God. Obviously this thread has not been edifying to the majority here, for that I am truly sorry. This thread was not to condone sin, but to encourage the walk in the Spirit, pure and simple. I did not want to discuss the flesh, but rather The Spirit.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest shiloh357]

If you are in agreement and understand the "Slaves to Righteousness" thread, then there is no further need for argument here.

I humbly withdraw from the back and forth on this thread, as I don't believe ANY amount of MY own opinions matter. If the posting of Scripture cannot be used to contend on this topic, then there is no need to go any further, and I do not intend to argue over the Word of God. Obviously this thread has not been edifying to the majority here, for that I am truly sorry. This thread was not to condone sin, but to encourage the walk in the Spirit, pure and simple. I did not want to discuss the flesh, but rather The Spirit.

In His Love,

Suzanne

It is not that the posting of Scripture cannot be used to contend on this topic; rather is it the posting of Scripture along with the courtesy of explaining to others what you see and the willingness to answer direct questions put to you. It really is a matter of common Christian courtesy, which you seem unwilling to render to your readers. So much for "walking in the Spirit" I guess...

[Fiosh]

If you are in agreement and understand the "Slaves to Righteousness" thread, then there is no further need for argument here.

I humbly withdraw from the back and forth on this thread, as I don't believe ANY amount of MY own opinions matter. If the posting of Scripture cannot be used to contend on this topic, then there is no need to go any further, and I do not intend to argue over the Word of God. Obviously this thread has not been edifying to the majority here, for that I am truly sorry. This thread was not to condone sin, but to encourage the walk in the Spirit, pure and simple. I did not want to discuss the flesh, but rather The Spirit.

In His Love,

Suzanne

Please note that tsth still refuses to respond to simple, direct questions.

I rest my case.

Peace,

Fiosh

[Guest Biblicist]

If you are in agreement and understand the "Slaves to Righteousness" thread, then there is no further need for argument here.

I humbly withdraw from the back and forth on this thread, as I don't believe ANY amount of MY own opinions matter. If the posting of Scripture cannot be used to contend on this topic, then there is no need to go any further, and I do not intend to argue over the Word of God. Obviously this thread has not been edifying to the majority here, for that I am truly sorry. This thread was not to condone sin, but to encourage the walk in the Spirit, pure and simple. I did not want to discuss the flesh, but rather The Spirit.

In His Love,

Suzanne

Flesh and spirit are not separated till death. One can not discuss one without the other.

I, too, am sorry that we can not come to some sort of understanding on this.

Bibs

[Fiosh]

and I believe that as a born-again believer, there is NO WAY that I can actively live my previous life.

I think this sums up what I think our sister is trying to relay. One who actively, or with express intent to live according to the manner of the old man. There are still many things that must be dealth with by our Lord in us. And I pray that we allow Him to do His work. God want's to see Christ, thats it. If one continues to willfully live according to a lifestyle contrary to the Life that he/she supposely has in them then...

We will make mistakes and fall, but these things are so that we demand more of the Life of Christ. He is the only One who can properly live out this human life. It has already been proven. Without Christ we can do nothing.

ruck1b, are you willing to discuss this with me? If so, read my 3 questions to tsth about a page or 2 back and respond.

Thanks,

Fiosh