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Ronald, I only know because I've been there. It's hard and that's an understatement. There is an excellent book out there called "We became the wives of happy husbands". It has about 9 chapters and each chapter is written by a different (Godly) woman. Each is the story of the woman being married to a drunk, a bum, an unbeliever, and a myriad of other very bad things. (physical abuse was not one of the men's problems and it is said up front that a woman needs to get away from that). Anyway, the women each tell of how they tried to "fix" their husbands their way - manipulating, anger, enabling, you name it. Only when they laid their spouses down at the feet of Jesus, and turned all their energy on what God wanted for themselves did things begin to change. Miracles they never thought they could even dream of.

I gave the book to one friend who is married to an unbelieving alchoholic. She read a bit of the chapter of the woman who was married to an alcholic and had a fit. She yelled at me - "WHAT?!?! You expect me to do what this doormat did and make his dinner and sit it down on the table for him when he comes home from drinking?!?!?!" She refused. She wanted to continue with her anger and he darn well did not "deserve" for her to spend time making him a dinner. That was 12 years ago. Today she is still married to the same unbelieving alcoholic.

Another friend who read the book, changed her attitude, repented of trying to change her husband, and started asking God to change her, and help her not to respond to her husband with anger and blame, but to pray for him and change only her reactions. Today she is married to a sober believer.

That's only two examples.

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Sin is sin is sin...and WIP, I can assure you that I am very married to my husband and am NOT committing adultery on my "ex" husband.

Like I said, I am not pointing fingers at anyone and yelling "ADULTERER!!!" I do not wish anyone had a scarlet letter on their head. It is a fine line, but I, too, have every right to speak my opinion on this board on what I think Scripture teaches - and that is ALL any of us are doing is speaking our opinion - without being condemned for it, which is all I ask. I am not condemning, there is a difference between condemning and telling what one believes. I only expect the same in return.

And with that, I will not say anything else on this thread.

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and i also know that God loved me enough to bless me with a husband that He had chosen for me. and i didn't ask God for specific qualities... i only asked Him to bring me HIS very best for me... and He did.

It's amazing how we are led in different ways. For me it was to pray that way for you Lady C not. But each of uswho have had that forgiveness have been truly blessed. <_<:)

And I don't think any of us would've gone through that divorce if there was any other way.

gymrose, i had lots of well meaning christian friends tell me that i needed to make a list of qualities and pray for God to fulfill my list. i couldn't bring myself to do that. i was too acutely aware that all the times i'd sought specific qualities (granted, without asking for God's help), the qualities i sought seemed to leave me empty. i was afraid to ask God for qualities that I wanted! i figured God knew better than i did what would be good for me and my daughters! :blink: (looking heavenward, as always!)


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Yup, a lot of folks get themselves in trouble by NOT asking God beforehand!!!

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And I didn't go searching either, he was the least likely guy I would have chosen, but God knew. As we became friends it became very clear.

well that part we got in common, anyway! <_<

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-i think the point of the topic being posted is this... we can all agree that God condemns divorce, but is God's grace and forgiveness extended to divorcees, and if it is, doesn't that then free the person to find a mate to share their life with?

-I believe the answer to both of the questions I just posed is an unmistakable YES. i do not believe this gives christians a license to go out and obtain a divorce just because they can be forgiven, though.

-AN honest question---honestly--- :t2: how does a 17 yr.old boy reconcile being married at that

-tender age & divorced at 21yrs.of age--THEN-- :rofl: RE-MARRIED at 22yrs. of age to another lady??

-This was all before "salvation"-- :) SO"where"does this leave--HIM??--HER-"them"?? <_<

-AFTER SALVATION??hmmmm?? :huh::):)

With me and very much in love 40 years later in April. :t2: That is exactly where it leaves you and me. Isn't it great? We were not saved and didn't know to lay things at the feet of Jesus. I hate to say this but I am so glad because I would not have missed this last 40 years with you for anything but Jesus. I didn't know I could be loved so much.

40 years of marriage should say something shouldn't it? It should show we tried in our first marriage. We didn't willingly go into our marriage thinking God would forgive us. Shoot, my love, God loves us and we have nothing to be ashamed of. 40 years is a little late to be worrying or asking serious questions now. :blink::rofl:

Actually, it is really like neither of us have ever been married before. We are one and that is what God had in store for us no matter who agrees or doesn't agree. We know better.

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i believe that sometimes our own stupidity temporarily derails us from the happiness God has in store for us. i also believe that sometimes He, in His infinite wisdom, knows that our mistakes will bring us to a greater depth of appreciation for His blessings.

but above all, i believe that when God says He remembers our sins no more, that He means it. for those of us who God has blessed in our second marriages, we don't have to worry about whether or not someone else agrees. it's one of those things that is between us and our Father. <_<

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for the record, WIP, (if you come back to read this), i'm not offended by your position.

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well, divorcee or not, we are ALL sinners... i don't have a problem with people trying to point out why they believe one thing over another, as long as it is done with scripture, and as long as it takes account of ALL of scripture. divorce is a sin... in your case and cats's, if i understand correctly, your ex husband's filed. you were abused, and i don't believe you were at fault. you are not held accountable for the sins your ex perpetrated against you

in my case, my ex and i were both at fault. he abused drugs, alcohol, and me. i was unfaithful, time after time after time. i didn't have any desire to make our marriage work, and i filed for divorce.

but just as sin is sin, forgiveness is forgiveness. forgive me if i misquote a scripture here, but i thank God for this grace in which i now stand!

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-but just as sin is sin, forgiveness is forgiveness. forgive me if i misquote a scripture here, but i thank God for this grace in which i now stand!

-MY -oh-MY--LadyC you are gonna get plumb weighed down with alla these flowers yuse erra

-accumulating aint-cha??bloomingrose.gifright on maam

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