An "untimely death"

[MrLuke]

Something I read in another thread got me thinking about this. It's something I've often thought about before but never really come to any solid decision on it.

So can we actually have an "untimely death" as Christians? Or even unbelievers too, since all our days are ordained by God, are they not?

Would living in sin be a factor to dying before your time in some way, or by walking away from the Lord and not following and living in His will any longer?

Will living by the will of God be the only way to truely live out all our intended days until the time appointed for us to die after completing what ever it was God had planned for our lives?

What are your thoughts on this? Scripture to point out facts and Truth would be more relevant here than just personal opinions too.

[7thseal]

Honouring our father and mother seems to play a big role in how long we live.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

[larryt]

Something I read in another thread got me thinking about this. It's something I've often thought about before but never really come to any solid decision on it.

So can we actually have an "untimely death" as Christians? Or even unbelievers too, since all our days are ordained by God, are they not?

Would living in sin be a factor to dying before your time in some way, or by walking away from the Lord and not following and living in His will any longer?

Will living by the will of God be the only way to truely live out all our intended days until the time appointed for us to die after completing what ever it was God had planned for our lives?

What are your thoughts on this? Scripture to point out facts and Truth would be more relevant here than just personal opinions too.

This scripture would support you idea. Sobering isn't it.

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord

[HAZARD]

Honouring our father and mother seems to play a big role in how long we live.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Hi 7thseal.

I agree with you, but some parents are hard to honour as you would know and they are reminded to not provoke their children to sin. (Ephesians 6:4).

[patricia1]

Honouring our father and mother seems to play a big role in how long we live.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Hi 7thseal.

I agree with you, but some parents are hard to honour as you would know and they are reminded to not provoke their children to sin. (Ephesians 6:4).

I do not agree having a long life because you have honored your mom or dad does not mean that having a short life meant you did not do that. Jesus is the author of life and death. If someone dies before their time they come back. I have seen it. Working in the medical field I have wrestled with many questions similar. I do remember in the old testament a life was made longer and it was the worse thing that could have asked for. I do remember a testimony of a woman who prayed for her saved son who was 17yrs old, pleading to Jesus not to take him. The Lord God showed her if he lived a longer life he would be in danger of going to Hell and in honor of her prayers for her son to be in heaven with her God took him early. I do not think their are any mistakes. I use to wonder why a person lasted two years on a respirator , his flesh rotting and a 6mos old baby died in the emergency room in a car accident. We do not know but we do know God is always in control. He tells even satan not to touch the life of job.

[MrLuke]

Honouring our father and mother seems to play a big role in how long we live.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Hi 7thseal.

I agree with you, but some parents are hard to honour as you would know and they are reminded to not provoke their children to sin. (Ephesians 6:4).

I do not agree having a long life because you have honored your mom or dad does not mean that having a short life meant you did not do that. Jesus is the author of life and death. If someone dies before their time they come back. I have seen it. Working in the medical field I have wrestled with many questions similar. I do remember in the old testament a life was made longer and it was the worse thing that could have asked for. I do remember a testimony of a woman who prayed for her saved son who was 17yrs old, pleading to Jesus not to take him. The Lord God showed her if he lived a longer life he would be in danger of going to Hell and in honor of her prayers for her son to be in heaven with her God took him early. I do not think their are any mistakes. I use to wonder why a person lasted two years on a respirator , his flesh rotting and a 6mos old baby died in the emergency room in a car accident. We do not know but we do know God is always in control. He tells even satan not to touch the life of job.

Hm, It's interesting the rest of what you said, but how can you just say you "don't agree" when Scripture plainly says that God will grant a long life for honouring our parents?

And thanks larryt, I had forgotton about that bit in 1 Cor. - realy is a sobering thought which is why I try to make sure I am "worthy" to be partaking in the Lord's supper otherwise I won't if I know there is still things to be repentant of, especially since it clearly says that the believers are sick and even dead because of it!

Scarey stuff.

[kari21]

1 Corinthians 5:5 "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Does that mean that a believer can become so sinful that God would allow Satan to take that persons life?

[larryt]

1 Corinthians 5:5 "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Does that mean that a believer can become so sinful that God would allow Satan to take that persons life?

God uses Satan to chastise His children when they are obstinate in their sin. If you observe children there are those that are more stubborn than others.

LT

[EricH]

Something I read in another thread got me thinking about this. It's something I've often thought about before but never really come to any solid decision on it.

So can we actually have an "untimely death" as Christians? Or even unbelievers too, since all our days are ordained by God, are they not?

Would living in sin be a factor to dying before your time in some way, or by walking away from the Lord and not following and living in His will any longer?

Will living by the will of God be the only way to truely live out all our intended days until the time appointed for us to die after completing what ever it was God had planned for our lives?

What are your thoughts on this? Scripture to point out facts and Truth would be more relevant here than just personal opinions too.

From God's perspective, no. All of our days are numbered

[patricia1]

Something I read in another thread got me thinking about this. It's something I've often thought about before but never really come to any solid decision on it.

So can we actually have an "untimely death" as Christians? Or even unbelievers too, since all our days are ordained by God, are they not?

Would living in sin be a factor to dying before your time in some way, or by walking away from the Lord and not following and living in His will any longer?

Will living by the will of God be the only way to truely live out all our intended days until the time appointed for us to die after completing what ever it was God had planned for our lives?

What are your thoughts on this? Scripture to point out facts and Truth would be more relevant here than just personal opinions too.

From God's perspective, no. All of our days are numbered

because it is not a untimely or timely death, luke... it is a promise, a reward but not proof of the other side of the coin.I am not disagreeing with scripture, just the use of it to justify the o.p. statement..