America is enabling Palestinian terrorism

[eric]

Neb, sis, you have just made my day. I think Yod may have published something similar previously, but never the less, it's good to read it again. In fact it should be pinned.

[Guest yod]

In "math language," it's a simple matter of A + B = C.

These are simple observations and correlations the book presents concerning natural disasters that hit the US and Israel-related procedings.

1. October 30, 1991 - As President George H. W. Bush is opening the Madrid (Spain) Conference to consider "land for peace" in Israel's Middle East role, the "perfect storm" develops in the North Atlantic, creating the largest waves ever recorded in that region. The storm travels 1000 miles from "east to west" instead of the normal "west to east" pattern and crashes into the New England Coast. Thirty-five foot waves crash into the Kennebunkport home of President Bush.

2. August 23, 1992 - When the Madrid Conference moves to Washington DC and the peace talks resume, Hurricane Andrew, the worst natural disaster ever to hit America, comes ashore and produces an estimated $30 billion in damage and leaving 180,000 homeless in Florida.

3. January 16, 1994 - President Bill Clinton meets with Syria's President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk about a peace agreement with Israel that includes giving up the Golan Heights. Within 24 hours, a powerful 6.9 earthquake rocks Southern California. This quake, centered in Northridge, becomes the second most destructive natural disaster to hit the United States, behind Hurricane Andrew.

4. January 21, 1998 - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Clinton at the White House and is coldly received. Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright refuse to have lunch with him. Shortly afterwards on that day, the Monica Lewinsky scandal breaks into the mass media and begins to occupy a major portion of Clinton's time.

5. September 28, 1998 - As Secretary of State Albright works on the final details of an agreement in which Israel would give up 13 percent of Yesha (Judah and Samaria), Hurricane George slams into the United States Gulf Coast with 110 mph winds and gusts up to 175 mph. The hurricane hits the coast and stalled. On September 28, Clinton meets with Yasser Arafat and Netanyahu at the White House to finalize this land deal. Later, Arafat addresses

the United Nations about declaring an independent Palestinian state by May 1999, as Hurricane George pounds the Gulf Coast, causing $1 billion in damage. At the exact time that Arafat departs the country, the storm begins to dissipate.

6. October 15-22, 1998 - On October 15, 1998, Arafat and Netanyahu meet at the Wye River Plantation in Maryland. The talks are scheduled to last five days with the focus on Israel giving up 13 percent of Yesha. The talks are extended and conclude on October 23. On October 17, awesome rains and tornadoes hit southern Texas. The San Antonio area is deluged with rain. The rain and flooding in Texas continue until October 22 and then subside. The floods ravage 25 percent of Texas and leave over one billion dollars in damage. On October 21, Clinton declares this section of Texas a major disaster area.

7. November 30, 1998 - Arafat comes to Washington again to meet with President Clinton to raise money for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. A total of 42 other nations were represented in Washington. All the nations agreed to give Arafat $3 billion in aid. Clinton promised $400 million, and the European nations $1.7 billion. On the same day, the Dow Jones average drops 216 points, and on December 1, the European Market had its third worst day in history. Hundreds of billions of market capitalization were wiped out in the U.S. and Europe.

8. December 12, 1998 - As Clinton lands in the Palestinian-controlled section of Israel to discuss the "land for peace" process, the House of Representatives votes four articles of impeachment against him.

9. May 3, 1999 - On the day that Yasser Arafat is scheduled to declare a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital, the most powerful tornado storm system ever to hit the United States sweeps across Oklahoma and Kansas. The winds are clocked at 316 mph the fastest wind speed ever recorded. The declaration is postponed to December 1999 at the request of President Clinton, whose letter to Arafat encourages him in his "aspirations for his own land." He also writes that the Palestinians have a right to "determine their own future on their own land" and that they deserve to "live free, today, tomorrow and forever."

10. Week of October 11, 1999 - As Jewish settlers in 15 West Bank (Israel) settlements are evicted from the covenant land in Israel, the Dow-Jones financial averages lose 5.7 percent in the worst week since October 1989. On October 15 the Dow lost 266 points, and a hurricane slams into North Carolina. On the next morning, October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocks the southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage but was felt in three states.

11. September 11, 2001 - The World Trade Center and Pentagon terror attacks produced the most expensive insurance event in U.S. history ($30 to $50 billion estimate). At the same time the Bush administration, in cooperation with the Saudis, was completing the most comprehensive plan and message ever to be offered on Israel's covenant land by an American President, and to be presented by Secretary of State Powell to the United Nations General Assembly. Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar bin Sultan stated he went from being "the happiest man in the world" on Monday night, September 10, to experiencing the worst crisis of his career on September 11. Dreams of a new Middle East peace initiative evaporated. The realization that most of the hijackers were Saudis "fell on me ... like the whole house collapsed over my head," Bandar said later. He couldn't imagine a way to "do more damage or worse damage to Islam or to Saudi Arabia."

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"In John McTernan and my book, "Israel the Blessing or the Curse," we identify events that occur on the same-day Israel was strongly advised or forced to give up her covenant land by the United States or others. The above gives one an idea of the magnitude of these events."

-Koenig's International News - watch-news@watch.org

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If anyone desires to challenge these claims as being related, that they were indeed coincidences, please offer incidences where the US had anything to do with pressuring Israel to give up land or such action having taken place (i.e. the Gaza pullout) where the US nor the president was not affected by some disaster such as listed above.

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DISPENSATIONALISM!!!!!

if that is the best you can do, Horizon, there is no reason to continue the conversation...

[nebula]

Oh, I would say George Bush got judged all right.

Nebula

[nebula]

You didn

[eric]

Horizon, you seem to be in a rut. America is not the only country in the world that has tried to accelerate the land for peace deal in the Is/pal conflict, but it is the most influencial country and is supposed to be Israel's ally. Besides I don't know that Katrina was being held as judgement on America, but a wake up call for the whole world to know ya don't mess with God's land or people. I don't think that God is judging America as a nation, (if He was there are nations that are as depraved as NO), but the leadership of the nation, including some of the advisors, secs of state. in the pentagon. and other back stabbers of both demos and repubs.

The stats that Neb has illustrated show only those that have occurred in the Us. What about the UK, the droughts and floods, there and in Aussie and the tsnami in Indonesia and in our own country. We have floods one after nother, one place hit three times in a month.

Co incidences, natural phenomena, as for me I would say God is flexing His muscles, same as He did in Egypt with the Pharoah.

[nebula]

nebula

Has the Lord God ceased to reveal what He does to His servants the prophets?

I ask this, because if you no longer believe that "His servants the prophets" walk this Earth and receive His revelation, then nothing I say will make a difference to you.

I understand you are referring to the

[Guest yod]

Today we have no need for latter-day prophets and apostles because the completed (perfect) word of God has been delivered once for all time. Jude speaks of contending, "earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." The expression "once for all" indicates there will be nothing else needed.

[Guest shiloh357]

History is replete with extinct empires and nations who had one thing in common: They persecuted they either enslaved or otherwise oppressed the nation of Israel.

The Egyptians, Babylonians, Romans, Assyrians, Philistines, et al. were oppressors of Israel, and even in more modern times, many European nations today are a shell of their former selves. Even countries like Poland was at one time a mighty Kingdom. Between many ancient nations/empires and many modern nations and empires up to and including the British empire, they are either extinct altogether (as in the ancient nations) or they are irrelvant and/or carry no where near the weight and authority they once possessed.

I understand that there were issues involved, and I am not saying that their brutal treatment of the Jews was the ONLY reason they fell, but it what it did do was remove any protection that they were afforded by God and it allowed those other factors to bring them into ruin.

I don't believe that America has experienced full blown judgment, as I dont think we would exist any longer if we did, but there is a documented and historically verifiable pattern that has emerged that cannot be denied and that should not be ignored.

[sweetycakes]

I agree that biblically and historically, anybody who has been an enemy of Israel has been an enemy of God.

To verify this, one needs only to look at biblical or historical records.

The same applies today. Both historically (or in contemporary world politics)......or biblically (read the prophets)

[nebula]

I do not reject any of God