Days of Noah/sons of God

[exrockstar]

instead you negate to see that scripture is telling you that

they were "giants (Gen 6:4)" of great stature superceding the ordinary.

And what makes you think that Giant necessarily refers to a person of abnormal height?

Numbers 13:33

33And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and

we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

nef-eel

same word. same author.

Different purpose and a different context. Like I said, context determine word usage. The object, occasion, purpose and situation are different in Genesis 6, and once again, you are running from assumption, nothing else. Just doing word searches/studies hardly amounts to competent exegesis.

again, did you present anything?

no.

thanks.....

[dawngordon]

The Locusts

Hello, I am a harvester, as described in revelation 14,

I published this in a newsletter (copyrighted) because of some pride issues at time in the church, people have a habit of saying something that was delivered to them by someone else and saying it was them, they call them false prophets anyhow, but I also did that to protect you to, because pride is huge fall from God, that is why the copyright, I have already had one person try to STEAL it, not good,....yet I learned about the seven spirits from someone else and can SAY SO. I feel in my heart that is one reason why God chose me, because sometimes people get puffieth, and I am not like that, in my newsletter I gave acknowledgement to those I learned from, not the revelations, since they were given to me from the Lord, but other things I learned,

revelation 9 about the locusts, well first of all exodus says no other plague of locusts....

what they are is angels of the Lord, but another side of them, notice CROWNS OF GOLD< which means splendor, wisdom etc...look up crowns throughout the bible...they will help GOD with wraith and retribution for tribulation of the people LEFT HERE.

the KING over them is GOD, he has the wings as david says "HE WILL COVER YOU WITH HIS PINIONS" but he also told MOSES, I WILL PASS OVER YOU< not he will pass over you, I WILL PASS OVER YOU, when he sent the plagues in Egypt. Besides that only GOD can DESTROY

and god is the one who is in charge of hell, (ABYSS) Satan goes to hell yes but he does NOT control it, that is in the movies.

[Guest shiloh357]

instead you negate to see that scripture is telling you that

they were "giants (Gen 6:4)" of great stature superceding the ordinary.

And what makes you think that Giant necessarily refers to a person of abnormal height?

Numbers 13:33

33And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and

we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

nef-eel

same word. same author.

Different purpose and a different context. Like I said, context determine word usage. The object, occasion, purpose and situation are different in Genesis 6, and once again, you are running from assumption, nothing else. Just doing word searches/studies hardly amounts to competent exegesis.

again, did you present anything?

no.

thanks.....

I have presented plenty. You have so far, been unable to offer a refutation. Your responses amount to nothing but claiming I have said or presented nothing, and that is not true.

You prefer to believe a fairytale, I prefer to believe the Bible.

[dawngordon]

10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

not everyone is going to hear, you will notice that, some, even after me giving enough proof of who and what I am, are still posting about the anti Christ, still fighting about the laws, this is the delusion,..

at first because of flesh it bothered me ( being honest) but not anymore, the spirit over rides the flesh, their is a reason they are being condemned, do not let that stop you from surrounding the body of Christ, and teaching them to follow the commandments, and about witchcraft, this includes reading them too.(horoscopes etc..)

2 thess 2 10-12

[dawngordon]

10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

not everyone is going to hear, you will notice that, some, even after me giving enough proof of who and what I am, are still posting about the anti Christ, still fighting about the laws, this is the delusion,..

at first because of flesh it bothered me ( being honest) but not anymore, the spirit over rides the flesh, their is a reason they are being condemned, do not let that stop you from surrounding the body of Christ, and teaching them to follow the commandments, and about witchcraft, this includes reading them too.(horoscopes etc..)

2 thess 2 10-12

[Isa]

END AGE

Hello, I am a harvester, as described in revelation 14,

I published this in a newsletter (copyrighted) because of some pride issues at time in the church, people have a habit of saying something that was delivered to them by someone else and saying it was them, they call them false prophets anyhow,

I was praying in the spirit and this was revealed to me

revelation 14

his name and his fathers name-clearly TWO they are followers of CHrist (not jews)(descendents of the tribes)

the sound from heaven=holy spirit

HARPS=ANGELS=what jesus said about end of age being harvesters

we surround the four creatures which is denominations of churchs, and the elders are people who serve them,

I was praying in the spirit and this was revealed to me

revelation 20

satan-adversary=demons

false prophet=all false prophets in church and outside like witchcraft

beast=the rest

i know it looks like three people going to hell but it is MANY

revelation 17 supports this by saying that "those in the book of life do not see this phony anti christ man" only those left here see the beast, CHRIST SAID ONE TAKEN ONE STAYS<

now Daniel spoke of the wise stumbling, it's because as jesus said, they were not told the truth, the wise and learned will not know the secrets of heaven, the stumbling you may experience, is because I am telling you the truth, its alright, you will be purified and refined, that is message to you from GOD,

I know this info because I have the Holy SPirit

also a few forums have now closed down because of this, because i told them,

I also know that the seven angels with seven plagues are people like moses, and i know this because he gave me a plague, in my dream,

you have nothing to be afraid of, just accept this information as truth, and do not teach about one anti man not true

the mark of the beast is the mark of MAN not SPirit, no anti christ man with CHIP, since revelation 17 says we do not see the HIM or the beast

thought to let you know that too,

you may have to change things a bit in your end times area, my name is Dawn Gordon, and I am a real Prophet, you can use my name that is fine, I am like ISAIAH, and the rest, so I have a little humor with the Lord, about the book of DAWN haha

Hi dawngordon,

I hate to knock the wind out of your sail but you seem to be letting of a little wind yourself. You made a statement

the mark of the beast is the mark of MAN not SPirit, no anti christ man with CHIP, since revelation 17 says we do not see the HIM or the beast

but I must inform you that the spirit that has shown you what you know is not the Holy Spirit it is a demonic spirit. It is not a message from God and you do not have a gift given to you from God.

Your statement is false the beast is seen, look at Revelation 17 again my friend and you will find your mistaken.

Revelation 17:8

8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

If what you say is not 100% correct as a prophet then you are not of God. Guess what my friend you are not of God. It surprises me that this has not been corrected by one who so detests those who do not speak the truth and are filled with lies from Satan, where is he when he is needed or is it that this one stands in the same house.

Matthew 12:26

If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

Dawngordon I think you need to really ask yourself whom you are serving.

[exrockstar]

amazing how these same tired arguments get rehashed over and over on various forums, isn't it?

MacArthur Study Bible notes on Numbers 13:33:

The term "giants" was used in Gen 6:4 for a group of strong men who lived on the earth before the Flood. The descendants of Anak were, in exaggeration, compared to these giants, which led the spies to view themselves as grasshoppers before them

note that the spies who brought this bad report later died of a plague from the Lord (Numbers 14:37)

when one starts trying to look into these decendants one will find interesting things.

Deuteronomy 3:10-12 (New International Version) 10 We took all the towns on the plateau, and all Gilead, and all Bashan as far as Salecah and Edrei, towns of Og's kingdom in Bashan. 11 (Only Og king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaites. His bed [a] was made of iron and was more than thirteen feet long and six feet wide. It is still in Rabbah of the Ammonites.)

besides the scouts came back and said Numbers 13"31 But the men who had gone up with him said, "We can't attack those people; they are stronger than we are." 32 And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, "The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. 33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes , and we looked the same to them."

no one is saying that they were 40 feet tall men.

however, if i was to make a personal call then i'd say something like Andre the Giant from WWF wrestling.

Goliath falls from the same line of decendants.

[Guest shiloh357]

when one starts trying to look into these decendants one will find interesting things.

Yeah, and one of the things they will find is that all of these "giants" (if there were any) were killed in Noah's flood, and therefore, would not have any surviving descendents since only Noah and his family were saved from the flood. So much for the "decscendents" of the Nephillim.

Goliath falls from the same line of decendants.

See above.

[exrockstar]

when one starts trying to look into these decendants one will find interesting things.

Yeah, and one of the things they will find is that all of these "giants" (if there were any) were killed in Noah's flood, and therefore, would not have any surviving descendents since only Noah and his family were saved from the flood. So much for the "decscendents" of the Nephillim.

Goliath falls from the same line of decendants.

See above.

this is some sort of angelic infiltration.

read scripture slowly.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

"those days"= days of the flood

"also after that" = after the flood

the way you come off reminds me of an ex-girlfriend.

[Guest shiloh357]

this is some sort of angelic infiltration.

read scripture slowly.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

"those days"= days of the flood

"also after that" = after the flood

Talk about sloppy exegesis. That conclusion derives no support from the text. We have no account of any angelic fornication with women occurring post flood. The word "giant" does not refer to stature in v.4. it refers to reputation, "mighty men, men of reknwown."

Besides you have not offered anything even remotely conclusive that shows "sons of god" MUST refer to angels in the text of Genesis 6. You simply prefer to bevlieve a fairytale as opposed to actually examining the text from a more realistic, plausible and intelligent perspective.

the way you come off reminds me of an ex-girlfriend.

Well then, you must be gay if I remind you of an ex-girlfriend. You can keep your homosexual tendencies to yourself.