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I honestly am not trying to be sarcastic by any means. I'm being very serious. I guess it's hard to tell on here?

In His Love,

Suzanne

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Dear Emily-Anne,

I so much appreciate your intentions here! I agree, I hope this can be kept on a civil level.

:whistling::wub:

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I got a wild idea, let's leave anger and ill intentioned sarcasm out of this thread and debate only the topic and not take anything personally.

Oh excuse me, I'll leave now


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Noone is to assume who I am talking about anyone in particular in my post, let's just all take the advice and have a civil discussion that is a positive learning environment ok? Can you imagine if a bible study was conducted with anger and sarcasm? What would be the point? Each one of us needs to examine ourselves and not point fingers, including myself.


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I got a wild idea, let's leave anger and ill intentioned sarcasm out of this thread and debate only the topic and not take anything personally.

Oh excuse me, I'll leave now

:whistling: read my last post please. :wub:


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Hopefully, this might get us back on track:

So maybe it's about changing the mindset of our belief? Maybe it's time to look at it differently? WHAT IF, we did look at it as "being holy"? Rather than the mindset of being "slaves to sin", what if our minds/hearts were reset, to begin looking at it from the other direction? One of believing in "the righteousness" that Christ brings? Maybe we have been all to eager to accept sinfulness?

In His Love,

Suzanne


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I think it is more about the mindset, and being excited in Christ and how he can work an awesome thing in us! Sorry my words are not fancy, I hope my point is clear though! I'll continually struggle and fall yes, but Jesus lifts me back up again, washes away my sins with his blood and with him by my side, I continue on. Living a life to serve Jesus is much more fulfilling than living a life to serve my sinful self!


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Hopefully, this might get us back on track:

So maybe it's about changing the mindset of our belief? Maybe it's time to look at it differently? WHAT IF, we did look at it as "being holy"? Rather than the mindset of being "slaves to sin", what if our minds/hearts were reset, to begin looking at it from the other direction? One of believing in "the righteousness" that Christ brings? Maybe we have been all to eager to accept sinfulness?

In His Love,

Suzanne

Maybe im not understanding what you're saying, so correct me if i'm wrong. I do think that a lot of times religious people, not just Christains but all religions, live on the fact that humans are born in sin, and so they find it easier to sin, blaming it on their sinful nature and banking on the fact that they'll be forgiven. It becomes a crutch, just like many of the other crutches Christains use.

Maybe we shouldn't change our mindset to the other side of the spectrum, but a whole new spectrum itself. Maybe its time we took responsibility for how we lived and just changed it.

Is that kind of what you're saying?

What I'm saying is, maybe we should believe what God says about sin and righteousness/holiness, in His Own Word! Why won't we believe Him in regard to His Power to Conquer??? See below!

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Titus 2

11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. 12 It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope--the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

In His Love,

Suzanne

It depends on what you believe, whether or not you will "strive" to be "holy". Do you believe God's Word? Or not?

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. 7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

Ephesians 5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

1 Thess. 4:7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.

Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. 15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; 16 for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."

2 Peter 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.

(This is what the "grace" of God appeared for! See Titus 2 in previous post.)

In His Love,

Suzanne

Do you believe?

Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. 5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin-- 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

Praise the Almighty God!!!!

In His Love,

Suzanne


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I got a wild idea, let's leave anger and ill intentioned sarcasm out of this thread and debate only the topic and not take anything personally.

By the way, I owe an apology, in this very post here I am quoting, I was being sarcastic myself (see bolded part) in a not very nice way. This was hypocritical of me. Please forgive me.


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By golly, that was a good catch Emily-Anne! I never would have noticed! (And pretty humble of you too! :24::thumbsup: )

In His Love,

Suzanne

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