A sign of the times

[O'Dannyboy]

Fox news article

Reading this article I couldn't help but think that these "youths" they are referring to, both black and Arab, HAD to be muslims and yet they don't mention it. Why do you suppose this is? I would bet my left eye that they were and the reluctance of Fox News to say so causes me to question how much they are leaving out of other articles. While I have considered Fox to be conservative I can't help but wonder what they hope to achieve by being so vague and leaving such pertinent information out of the piece.

Even so, the article shows that France, in particular, is paying for it's stupidity. They gambled on the idea that Muslims actually wanted to be part of a multicultural society and have been, instead, taken advantage of. As I understand it, they not only payed for many of them to come to France but they also have most of them set up on a kind of welfare system. Despite their generosity they live under the constant threat of violence over trivial insults to the prophet of Islam.

I can't help but think of all that the Christian community has had to put up with lately. Atheists coming from every direction trying to drag us down and destroy this country that was founded on our core beliefs. Even so, theres almost no coverage of nor complaints about Muslim violence by liberals or left wing media.

We who have been blessed can see what is going on, but the rest seem totally oblivious to what some might consider "the big picture". I can tell you that I, for one, am grateful that I am no longer blind to the state of things. I still often find myself confounded and completely a gasp at how many people there are that can't or refuse to see the direction humanity has chosen. I was reminded earlier, by a friend, that things have only gotten worse since Jesus came to pay for our sins. Since that time Christians have been, as we have been instructed, spreading the gospel and despite the increasing numbers people that have and do hear His message, the world continues to become more and more like Sodom. To me, it simply defies logic that there are people that prefer chaos and violence to love and truth.

Well, enough babbling, I'm going back to work.

[nebula]

Actually, it's an Associated Press article.

Fox just happens to be one of the carriers of AP, like all the other major news outlets.

[AnotherTraveler]

Quote from the link....

The government was striving to keep violence from spreading in what was shaping up as a stern test for new President Nicolas Sarkozy. The unrest showed anger still smolders in France's poor neighborhoods, where many Arabs, blacks and other minorities live largely isolated from the rest of society.

The story appears to be a response by isolated poor people (a portion are Arab), and the rioting reads like it was partially in response to them being called "scums". If you disenfanchise the poor, isolating them outside of the opportunities that the rest of the general society has, and then demean them through name calling and other snubs, it is possible to whip them into a frenzy of rioting and disrespecting authority. If authority is unfair, abusive, and partial, then the disrespect they receive in return is often just the harvest of the disrespect that they have sown.

[MorningGlory]

Quote from the link....

The government was striving to keep violence from spreading in what was shaping up as a stern test for new President Nicolas Sarkozy. The unrest showed anger still smolders in France's poor neighborhoods, where many Arabs, blacks and other minorities live largely isolated from the rest of society.

The story appears to be a response by isolated poor people (a portion are Arab), and the rioting reads like it was partially in response to them being called "scums". If you disenfanchise the poor, isolating them outside of the opportunities that the rest of the general society has, and then demean them through name calling and other snubs, it is possible to whip them into a frenzy of rioting and disrespecting authority. If authority is unfair, abusive, and partial, then the disrespect they receive in return is often just the harvest of the disrespect that they have sown.

If you travel to France, hopefully on a short visit, you will realize that the French are socialist snobs who brought in the Arabs, mostly for domestic jobs, and when they didn't know what else to do with the overflow, pushed them into government subsidized ghettos. They're reaping what they have sown. The French are the rudest, most intolerant people I've ever come in contact with....despite their pretense of being an open society, french jobs and amenities are for Jacques and Pierre; not Ahmad or Fatima. Of course, there are good Frenchmen; I'm talking about a large part of the population....

[AnotherTraveler]

Quote from the link....

The government was striving to keep violence from spreading in what was shaping up as a stern test for new President Nicolas Sarkozy. The unrest showed anger still smolders in France's poor neighborhoods, where many Arabs, blacks and other minorities live largely isolated from the rest of society.

The story appears to be a response by isolated poor people (a portion are Arab), and the rioting reads like it was partially in response to them being called "scums". If you disenfanchise the poor, isolating them outside of the opportunities that the rest of the general society has, and then demean them through name calling and other snubs, it is possible to whip them into a frenzy of rioting and disrespecting authority. If authority is unfair, abusive, and partial, then the disrespect they receive in return is often just the harvest of the disrespect that they have sown.

If you travel to France, hopefully on a short visit, you will realize that the French are socialist snobs who brought in the Arabs, mostly for domestic jobs, and when they didn't know what else to do with the overflow, pushed them into government subsidized ghettos. They're reaping what they have sown. The French are the rudest, most intolerant people I've ever come in contact with....despite their pretense of being an open society, french jobs and amenities are for Jacques and Pierre; not Ahmad or Fatima. Of course, there are good Frenchmen; I'm talking about a large part of the population....

Oh Oh, this could bring back freedom fries.

Oddly, the French are also kind of proud of being a little aloof and arrogant, but then there are a lot of cultures that I don't understand.

[AnotherTraveler]

If you travel to France, hopefully on a short visit, you will realize that the French are socialist snobs who brought in the Arabs, mostly for domestic jobs, and when they didn't know what else to do with the overflow, pushed them into government subsidized ghettos. They're reaping what they have sown. The French are the rudest, most intolerant people I've ever come in contact with....despite their pretense of being an open society, french jobs and amenities are for Jacques and Pierre; not Ahmad or Fatima. Of course, there are good Frenchmen; I'm talking about a large part of the population....

Interesting you can judge a whole society of people with such sterotype and inflammatory statements. Your comments appear to be quite prejudice and discriminatory and do not demonstrate the love of Christ towards other large people groups.

I don't think this is a matter of judging the French people. It is well documented that there has been times in America of prejudice, bigottry, and racism. If you were to say that the vast majority of that was in the southern states, you would just be stating facts, not judging the south. The French disposition is not a secret, and as stated, there are good Frenchmen, but there is a place where a nation acts in such a way that they are considered to hold a general position in certain matters. That said, they are not necessarily "the rudest, most intolerant people", but they do have a French way that is well documented.

[nebula]

The story appears to be a response by isolated poor people (a portion are Arab), and the rioting reads like it was partially in response to them being called "scums".

According to the article:

The trigger was the deaths Sunday of two minority teens when their motorscooter collided with a police car in Villiers-le-Bel, a blue-collar town on Paris' northern edge.

Residents claimed the officers left without helping the teens. Prosecutor Marie-Therese de Givry denied that, saying police stayed on the scene until firefighters arrived.

Rioting and arson quickly erupted after the crash. The violence worsened Monday night as it spread from Villiers-le-Bel to other impoverished suburbs north of the French capital. Rioters burned a library, a nursery school and a car dealership and tried to set some buildings on fire by crashing burning cars into them.

[AnotherTraveler]

I stand corrected, I need to give a more careful reading. My apologies all.

[nebula]

Appology accepted.

[JustinM]

But, I can't entirely blame the French for this, I believe it's also the muslim community's failure to fully integrate into the French society. As long as they live together, have strict diets, a different religion/justice system, language etc. They will never fit in. Which, probably isn't what they're interested in to begin with, we know that one of the muslims tactics to beating an enemy is to settle in their territory and outbreed the native/local population, then take it over by force when they have a sustainable population.

So, my question is, what are they complaining about?

France is a preview of things to come when you allow foreigners into your country, that have no interest in integrating, or respect for their host's sovereignty.