Christians, tell your children there is no Santa Claus

[Emily~Anne]

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BTW, the only ones getting rude and defensive are the ones opposing the OP. Think about it.

so you are saying that calling someone a "schoolyard bully " is not being rude

"yada yada"

Oh my goodness! Talk about biased! You are apparently reading the thread with blinders on! Do you not see the sarcasm, ridiculing and laughing at people?????

Also, I did not outright call her a schoolyard bully. I advised this person to stop acting like one before posting further!

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

Back to TOPIC.....

Could ONE of you that oppose the OP please give me BIBLICAL support for CHOOSING to lie to your children by telling them that Santa is real?

Can you support that choice by the Scriptures?

Can you answer WHY it is OK to CHOOSE to lie (willfully sin) by lying when the Scriptures condemn it?

And please don't give me man's reasons. We need to see a valid addressing of the Scriptures not to lie and why that is OK to disregard for telling kids Santa is real.

[sierra21]

meh- when everything is said and done, our kids are still going to get gifts from santa under the christmas tree. Ridicule, admonish, call me a bad parent- I really don't care. To me, I can't see the whole Santa fantasy ever getting out of hand, so it's not an issue. If it became an issue, and I was directed by the LORD to do so, then I would talk with my children about IMAGINATION.

God bless!

[Vickilynn]

meh- when everything is said and done, our kids are still going to get gifts from santa under the christmas tree. Ridicule, admonish, call me a bad parent- I really don't care. To me, I can't see the whole Santa fantasy ever getting out of hand, so it's not an issue. If it became an issue, and I was directed by the LORD to do so, then I would talk with my children about IMAGINATION.

God bless!

Shalom Sierra,

No one is calling you anything, no one is ridiculing, so please don't play that card.

The point is though... you ARE being directed by the L-rd not to lie and it IS an issue - an issue of willfully choosing sin over G-d..

To Christians:

How can A Christian justify ignoring Scripture and say they can CHOOSE to lie to your children when G-d says it's a sin? What other sins are OK to do? Adultery? Murder? Stealing?

Why is it OK to CHOOSE to lie about Santa being real, when lying is a sin? Why is it NOT OK to lie according to the Scriptures? Why is there a clear defiance of G-d's Word in favor of a make-believe character? Why are you choosing Santa over G-d? Because it's "fun"?

This is what I need for you all to explain to me. It's not a matter of conviction, it's a matter of clear Scriptural mandate.

Colossians 3:

9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.

Can you show me how it is right for a Christian to knowingly, willfully sin?

It's one thing to say, "well, before we knew better we did...", but it's ANOTHER thing to say, "I'm going to do it anyway, even though the Bible says not to."

James 4: 17

So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

1 John 3:

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

Romans 6

15What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

Can ANYONE show me how it is right for a Christian to knowingly, willfully sin?

It's one thing to say, "well, before we knew better we did...", but it's ANOTHER thing to say, "I'm going to do it anyway, even though the Bible says not to."

Colossians 3:

9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.

James 4:17

So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

[Emily~Anne]

In response to Vickilynn's posts: This is what people need to examine! I hear so many 'wordly' arguments out there! People need to examine, is the reasoning biblical, or totally of the world? Dont go by the reasoning that 'seems to make more sense' or what experience supports. Nothing should trump God's word!

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Emily Anne,

Amen,. this is the issue. The OP stated it and re-stated it and there is no excuse, justification or rationalization for willfully sinning by lying. We, as Christians MUST choose G-d , not sin.

[sierra21]

meh- when everything is said and done, our kids are still going to get gifts from santa under the christmas tree. Ridicule, admonish, call me a bad parent- I really don't care. To me, I can't see the whole Santa fantasy ever getting out of hand, so it's not an issue. If it became an issue, and I was directed by the LORD to do so, then I would talk with my children about IMAGINATION.

God bless!

Shalom Sierra,

No one is calling you anything, no one is ridiculing, so please don't play that card.

The point is though... you ARE being directed by the L-rd not to lie and it IS an issue - an issue of willfully choosing sin over G-d..

To Christians:

How can A Christian justify ignoring Scripture and say they can CHOOSE to lie to your children when G-d says it's a sin? What other sins are OK to do? Adultery? Murder? Stealing?

Why is it OK to CHOOSE to lie about Santa being real, when lying is a sin? Why is it NOT OK to lie according to the Scriptures? Why is there a clear defiance of G-d's Word in favor of a make-believe character? Why are you choosing Santa over G-d? Because it's "fun"?

This is what I need for you all to explain to me. It's not a matter of conviction, it's a matter of clear Scriptural mandate.

Colossians 3:

9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.

Can you show me how it is right for a Christian to knowingly, willfully sin?

It's one thing to say, "well, before we knew better we did...", but it's ANOTHER thing to say, "I'm going to do it anyway, even though the Bible says not to."

James 4: 17

So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

Actually I wasn't directing my statement at anyone VickiLynn.

This is my personal decision and you have no right (along with anyone else here on WB) to tell me what the Lord is directing me to do. That is between Jesus and I, and frankly I find it "holier than thou" (oh yes, I said it) for you to assume it is appropriate for you to make such statements.

Shame on me? No, shame on you.