GOD DOES HAVE A BODY.

[EricH]

The hebrew words in Genesis 1:26 are tselem (image) and demut (likeness) are used in the bible and in extra-biblical literature to describe something that is similar to an object, but not identical. They also carry the idea of representation.The words themselves to not carry with them the exact ways in which the 2 objects being compared are alike or different. The original hearers simply would have understood that Moses was saying that God created man and woman so that they were like Him in some way and that they represented Him.

The truth is that we may never understand completely what it means that we were created in the image of God, because if we did understand it that would imply that we have a complet understanding of God. The bottom line is that in the world in which this text was written, they would simply have understood it to mean that we were like God in some way.

A great example of this is Genesis 5:3 where Seth is described as being in Adam's image and likeness. The text does not specify what this means exactly. Was it intelligence, hair color, physical abilities? We simply don't know.

[Ddavid from NC]

There are many literary methods in Scripture. Some are common to the times of the authors and people's addressed. Giving God human like characteristics such as body parts and in some cases animal parts (wings) are a literary method known as anthropomorphism.

[patricia1]

Yes God does have a body....

We have a physical body that is a containment.

What are the attributes of God?

Within their image consists of both female and male attributes.

Did both of them have Godly attributes prior to sinning. I believe so. Now I believe the whole Spiritual body together, knit together as one should show Gods image. What is a Image?

[Guest shiloh357]

Ddavid from NC wrote:

There are many literary methods in Scripture. Some are common to the times of the authors and people's addressed. Giving God human like characteristics such as body parts and in some cases animal parts (wings) are a literary method known as anthropomorphism.

Sure, anthropomorphisms are employed as literary methods. I can say I took someone under my wing. Does that suddenly make you wonder if I

[Ddavid from NC]

There is no way to be omnipresent and be contained in a body.

[Guest shiloh357]

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Shiloh wrote:

Because the Bible doesn't say He has one. That is nothing more than conjecture at best and isogesis at worst. The problem is that you are not willing to be consistent. When the Bible refers to the Lord in Malachi as having healing in his wings, should we understand that to mean that God has wings? If we treat that verse the same way you are approaching verses that refer to God's "eyes" "arm," etc., then we would have to draw that conclusion in order to have any degree of consistency.

No, you

[HAZARD]

Really? "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" (Isaiah 28:9-10).

This says the exact opposit of what you are trying to maintain. it does not say that we can only understand the text a line at a time. it says we are to build out doctrine from the basic things to the larger. It actually encourages moving from a line by line understanding to bringin it all together. Your position is actually encouraging people to remain at a "line by line stage". Again this is why your position is incorrect

Hi Eric.

This scripture speaks of people who are into the meat of understanding, people who have been weaned, made ready for things not usually taught fundamentally.

The scripture states that; "For precept MUST BE upon precept, line apon line here a little, there a little." Notice the words MUST BE is used not move away. No where does it say we must move away from absorbing Scripture precept upon precept, line apon line ??? Nor can I find the words ; "we must build upon precepts or lines? I made the statement earlier which was as usual rejected that the entire Bible cannot be fully grasped in one reading. I know many who have studied the Scriptures for many years and are just beginning to understand all that God has revealed about Himself. If someone can get the entire Bible at one reading I say, Mirical! There are over 20,000 Scriptures which describe God, what he has done for man, and what He intends to do for man. How can one grasp all these alone on just this one doctrin in one reading?

When I speak to another person face to face, I look at them, they look at me, and we converse. This is called communication face to face. God spoke with Moses face to face as friends do! Dont believe me, read it for yourself.

"And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend . . . . " (Exodus 33:11). If God does not have a body why make this statement in Scripture.

If God, as you believe, does not have a real tangible spirit body, how does one explain away these simple few scriptures, of which there are many hundreds of examples throughout the Bible. For example Just this one situation.Moses asked God to show him " HIS GLORY," God said no you cannot see MY GLORY and live but; " Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." (Exodus 33:21-23).

Here God says I will cover thee with MY HAND, [God has one hand] while I PASS BY, [God has gone from being EVERYWHERE at once to PASSING BY], And God takes away his HAND [God still has a hand], and thou will see my BACK parts, [God has a BACK], but my FACE, [God has a FACE] shall not be seen.

Hand, face, back, attached to what?

[HAZARD]

shiloh 357 wrote;

Since we have no description of what God's spiritual body looks like, such a conclusion is simply not plausible. There are no internal textual indicators that point to man looking physically just like God.

"I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:" (Revelation 1:10-17).

This describes God, and it seems He has a counternance similar to men and does what men do. Snippets from the above scriptures. Voice, saying; so God has a mouth from which he speaks; clothed with a garmen to the foot; So God wears cloths and has a foot; Girt about the paps; God has a chest; His head and His hairs; God has a head and is not bald, he has hairs on it; Eyes were as a flame of fire; God has eyes; His feet like unto fine brass; God has feet, beautifully tanned as well; His voice was like the sound of many waters; God has a strong voice; In His right hand; God has a hand; and his countenance, God even has show; I fell at his feet as dead; God has feet; And He, God laid His right hand upon me saying; God has a right hand and can speak from His mouth.

[HAZARD]

Shiloh wrote:

No matter how you spin it, there is nothing in the passage that states that God formed Adam's physical body to resemble His "spirit body" as you call it. That is nothing but conjecture, since we do not have a description of God to go by. In fact, the Bible does not say that Adam was an image of the invisible God. That would imply that God was trying reproduce Himself, and that goes beyond the pale of Scripture.

And here is the rub. I would not depend on a child of 8 to provide insight into meaning for me. That does expain how you have arrived where you have.

The Bible was written to be understood by the simple not the wise of this world. Maybe we are just children, Babes, thats me, and who cares? I believe what I read just lake any child does.

"Jesus thanked God that the truths of the Bible were hidden from the worldly wise who refused to believe, and stated that God has "revealed them unto babes" (Matt. 11:25-27).

"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 18:3).

"And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light" (Luke 16:8).

"But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein" (Luke 18:16-17).

"And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them" (Matt. 13:10-17).

Many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which we see and have not seen them, hear what we hear and have not heard them? Eric, seriously mate, are you a prophet or a righteous man or am I? I know what I am, I am a Babe in Christ even though I have been studying Scriptures for over 40 years.

[Guest shiloh357]

This describes God,

It is describing the resurrected Christ. Jesus has a body. He ascended into heaven with it. It is not, however, describing God the Father. Nice try, though. But you still have not offered any description of the spirit body of the Father.