Will we be here when the AntiChrist rises?

[Isa]

Dear Isa and Kitty , never doubt what Christ achieved on the cross through His blood . We were reconciled to God on that day People who say that the grace message is tooeasy and that we must do things in order to please God really do not understand the cost of the death of Christ . God is Love and he loves us so much that He knew even before He created us that Christ would have to die on that cross . Christ suffered so we would not have to and fine if one wants to believe that they can achieve salvation any other way than through the gospel of the dispensation of grace then let them continue but when someone believes in Christ as their Lord and Savior then they are immediately sealed by the Holy Ghost and Christs seed is in us God looks at each one and no longer are we alien to Him but each one of His saints are perfect in His eyes not our perfection but yhe perfection of His Son CHRIST WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS SO WE CAN REST IN HIS ASSURANCE AND HAVE PEACE IN THE LOVE OF GOD OUR FATHER. READ COLOSSIANS CH 1-3 AND GALATIANS 1 - 3 and EPHESIANS 3 AND KNOW THE LOVE OF GOD THAT YOU HAVE "NOW"

AND FOR ETERNITY

I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO DENY THAT WE HAVE SUCH A LOVING GOD AND WANT TO PUY FEAR INTO OUR HEARTS BY CONSTANTLY GIVING THE IMPRESSION THAT GODS WRATH IS UPON US HE REALLY LOVES US THE ONLY QUESTION HE WILL ASK IS DO YOU BELIEVE IN MY SON ? OUR SINS ARE NO LONGER AN ISSUE AS FAR AS HE IS CONCERNED BECAUSE CHRIST HAS PAID IN FULL FOR MY SINS AND YOURS .

Hi onesiphorus

John 3:35,36

35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.

[onesiphorus]

Dear Isa , Praise the Lord , yes we have so many promises in Christ , there is only one probleem I have with 1 john 1:9 and that is what would happen if we did not ask God to forgive us something then are we unforgiven . this is not andisagreement but i have never been able to equate what John preaches to what Paul preaches in Colossians2:12 , 13 &14 where he says that Godhas forgiven me "all " my trespasses . it might make me feel better but my salvation is based on Christs perfection and not on mine

peace and rest

[Isa]

Dear Isa , Praise the Lord , yes we have so many promises in Christ , there is only one probleem I have with 1 john 1:9 and that is what would happen if we did not ask God to forgive us something then are we unforgiven . this is not andisagreement but i have never been able to equate what John preaches to what Paul preaches in Colossians2:12 , 13 &14 where he says that Godhas forgiven me "all " my trespasses . it might make me feel better but my salvation is based on Christs perfection and not on mine

peace and rest

Hi onesiphorus,

As Christians who have excepted the Lord as our savior through what He done for us on the cross, if we sin and not ask God to forgive us doesn't mean we are unforgiven. There is nothing that we can do that can change our salvation.

If we have unconfessed sin when the Lord comes our works are burned up and some of our works may survive the fire others may not but that doesn't mean our salvation is lost.

1 Corinthians 3:14-16

14 If anyone

[onesiphorus]

hello Isa , grace and peace to you , I firmly believe like you said that we have salvation thanks to the cross and the blood , and I only queried 1 John 1:9 because I have known so many saints burdened by the guilt laid on them by the erroneous teaching of this verse taught in isolation .

Galatians 2:7 states that the gospel of the uncircumcision was commited to Paul as the gospel of the circumcision was commited to Peter and in verse 9 James , cephas and John should GO ONLY TO THE . CIRCUMCISION . Johns epistle and his plea to confess sins is in response to Gods promises to Israel in Leviticus 26 :40 - 46 , part of the 5 courses of chastisement on Israel , the fifth phase of which is the tribulation

grace and peace

[onesiphorus]

dear Near , grace and peace , I see you live in orange county , well you have a blessed teacher not far from you , his name is John Verstegen and you can listen to many of his teachings at www.helpersofyourjoy.com . listen and search the scriptures and much of your anxieties will disappear as you are edified . His assembly is at San Juan Capistrano

Edited January 10, 2008 by onesiphorus

[Smalcald]

Hi Near,

The key is faith in Christ alone as your Lord and then knowing how to show that faith through our lives and following scripture to help us with that.

Prophecy is nice and interesting, but what will happen is going to happen. The fact is Prophecy has become a business in the US with hucksters all over the place with hidden revelations and meanings and complex theories and so forth.

Read what our Lord says, He addresses the end times in the book of Matthew, this is all you need. Revelation is a great book but it is a vision, and it is open to wide and different interpretations by Christians. The point of Revelation is to warn us and to help those Churches it was written to then and now, it is also a tremendously comforting book.

With faith we will all persevere regardless of what we believe about when Christ will return. Without faith it won't matter what we believe about the return.

[Guest yod]

Hi Near,

The key is faith in Christ alone as your Lord and then knowing how to show that faith through our lives and following scripture to help us with that.

Prophecy is nice and interesting, but what will happen is going to happen. The fact is Prophecy has become a business in the US with hucksters all over the place with hidden revelations and meanings and complex theories and so forth.

Read what our Lord says, He addresses the end times in the book of Matthew, this is all you need. Revelation is a great book but it is a vision, and it is open to wide and different interpretations by Christians. The point of Revelation is to warn us and to help those Churches it was written to then and now, it is also a tremendously comforting book.

With faith we will all persevere regardless of what we believe about when Christ will return. Without faith it won't matter what we believe about the return.

these are words of great wisdom. Be faithful in all things, large and small and you won't have to worry

Personally, I think he has already risen and recently took control of the EU by way of the Lisbon Treaty signed last month.

No one noticed.

[eric]

Well, speaking for myself, if the a/c doesn't get a move on and present him/itself before the end of 2008 or thereabouts, this old guy won't see him rise, but I will be with Lord in a different realm and I will surely see him fall.

[EricH]

I was kind of confused on this topic, because when I read Revelation, I am always wondering if we will be here when the AntiChrist comes and the One World Government rises. I think Armeggedon will begin when Gog Magog wages war with Israel (I think, lol).

If he is going to rise at the time of our being here, what will we do? I am really curious, I need to read Revelation though (again), lol, but any other insight is welcome!

Near

Near,

There is a great malentendu about what the Bible says about Antichrists. To get a clear understanding about this subject we must go to the Bible itself.

First, the word antichrist is only mentioned 5 times, in four places. This does not mean that other terms used do not fit the description.

Consider 1John 2:18-22, In these scriptures we are told that there are already, in John's day, many antichrists. Therefore there in no ONE antichrist. Notice that anyone who denies the Christ is an antichrist. 1John 4:3 says about the same thing. 2John 7 shows that the antichrists are deceivers.

So according to the Bible, which is the only Authority on religious truth, antichrist are here now and have been here since the first century.

It is not a matter of either or. It is both The antichrist is coming, the sprit of antichrist is already here and active

Children, it is the last hour. And as you have heard, "Antichrist is coming," even now many antichrists have come. We know from this that it is the last hour.

1 John 2:18 HCSB

[Isa]

Well, speaking for myself, if the a/c doesn't get a move on and present him/itself before the end of 2008 or thereabouts, this old guy won't see him rise, but I will be with Lord in a different realm and I will surely see him fall.

Hi Eric,

I know His coming is soon because he says He is on the way and I know the evil one is already in the world, so whether it be while I am alive on earh or alive in spirit I know because my Savior lives I will also live. I won't see the evil one come into power, but I will see my Savior in all His glory and power.