Women's Role in worship

[ray]

:t: what is your view point on the roles of women in the worship service?

Until the past few few years my view point is and has changed on this topic. i have studied the roles of women greatly and as I looked at the broader view and not just the passage where says women should be silent in the worship. I have changed my perspective.

Even if women are silent why could they not serve communion? they don't have to say anything just pass the emmblims.

Now, I have changed my thinking completely and find it wonderful for women to lead public prayer, read scripture, do communion orientation.

So whats you view point?

Thanks

ray

[Work in Progress]

I hold a very conservative viewpoint when it comes to women in the church. I believe the Bible paints a beautiful portrait of the woman's role - and it is not in leadership. She has been given the gift of nurture, and of prayer. How many will say that prayer is an incredibly powerful thing? Yet, say that women's main role is to be a prayer warrior, and you are scoffed at and put down as 'sexist' and 'out of date'.

There can not be all chiefs and no indians. Chaos would be the result. God clearly established a headship, and an order. Why so many mistakenly think that it's an insult to women is beyond me - personally I think God thought more of women and gave them so much more responsibility than men. And - why do so many think "submissive" is a swear word? Yikes. It's God's word, and it is beautiful, and conducive to good mental health and good relationships. It also works two ways.

Like I said in another post - there are some who let pride get in the way and want the "glory" and attention of the pulpit. Why they don't get that ministry/teaching over the backyard fence or the kitchen table is just as worthy and important, I just don't get.

I don't even like to see women take the offering. (they do that in my church). Hey, I said I was conservative. LOL

[Snowdoove]

Greetings~

re: Women's Role in Worship

It appears that man over the years has chosen to change the contents and meanings of YHVH'S word, all most to the point that anything goes.

I would prefer to see women in the choir. A woman organist. A Sunday School Teacher.

As far as being a minister, No.

Snowdoove

[ray]

Hi! Snowdove,

What is YHVH'S stand for?

thanks

ray

[IslandRose]

I hold a very conservative viewpoint when it comes to women in the church. I believe the Bible paints a beautiful portrait of the woman's role - and it is not in leadership. She has been given the gift of nurture, and of prayer. How many will say that prayer is an incredibly powerful thing? Yet, say that women's main role is to be a prayer warrior, and you are scoffed at and put down as 'sexist' and 'out of date'.

There can not be all chiefs and no indians. Chaos would be the result. God clearly established a headship, and an order. Why so many mistakenly think that it's an insult to women is beyond me - personally I think God thought more of women and gave them so much more responsibility than men. And - why do so many think "submissive" is a swear word? Yikes. It's God's word, and it is beautiful, and conducive to good mental health and good relationships. It also works two ways.

Like I said in another post - there are some who let pride get in the way and want the "glory" and attention of the pulpit. Why they don't get that ministry/teaching over the backyard fence or the kitchen table is just as worthy and important, I just don't get.

I don't even like to see women take the offering. (they do that in my church). Hey, I said I was conservative. LOL

Amen WIP!

If I am fulfilling all the ministries God has given me as a woman, I really don't have the time to worry about the ones he gave my husband.

IR :il:

[Guest yod]

I am FOR women using any gifting the Lord has given them.

[Shelby]

I am a Woman and an ordained woman. So I obviously have a different view than most so far on this discussion.

If God has called me then who should have an issue with that?

I am going to study about it. In my church the Husband and wife are both ordained after seminary and single women and men as well.

So what do those of you think about Nuns?

[keslc]

I think that throughout scriptures (bot OT and NT) God has used woman for many purposes to furthur His kingdom, including evangelism and preaching. ( A samaritan woman at that!) John chapter 4 tells the story of Jesus teaching a samaritan woman at the well. What did that woman do when she believed Jesus was the Messiah, she went into her town proclaiming it! (vs. 28-29) because of her proclaimation, many samaritans believed (vs. 39-42) If she had done wrong, Jesus would have reprimanded her, don't you think?

Also, Acts 2:17-18 says, "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy."

I think that speaks to God using women and gifting us as well as men.

The scriptures in which women are told to remain silent in church I feel speaks more to the idea that conflict should be avoided and discouraged within the church body. Women are encouraged to ask their husbands in private if they have a question so as not to cause disputes and strife within the congregation. (1 corinthians 14:34)

That said....I do feel Godly-women need to have modesty and submit themselves to God, first, and to the Godly-leadership of their husbands in their homes. I don't think women should seek out the pulpit just to prove some point about sexism or other agendas than that of a calling by God. I do think God calls women to the pulpit and uses us there.

[Guest mcm42]

I do think God calls women to the pulpit and uses us there

This is no doubt a touchy issue. Like walking on broken glass in bare feet, you better know what your doing or... OUCH!

It's difficult because Paul said he didn't allow women to lead over men. At the same time the Old Testament shows women leading (Debrah, the judge, and I know there was a prophetess in Isaiah's time, but her name slips my mind.)

I'm like this, Women can teach, but they should not be holding leadership over men. That is, when the decision comes down to the final vote, it is the Man's responsbility. I don't know why it's this way, it just is.

There is nothing "demeaning" about submission. Jesus Christ our Lord was and is in total volunteery submission to the fathers will. All men submit, at least to God, if not to other authorities (work, church etc.).

That's my view, I think women have a role and that role is not in leadership, again just my opinion.

[ginakay]

I'm all over the place on this issue! On the one hand I see women used in some fairly up front ways in scripture although this does not seem to be the norm. Didn't Deborah want the man to lead in the battle and he would not so she told him a woman would get the glory (thus Jael killed Sisera) I am at work and so can't really look this up at the moment.

It seems overall that the Bible teaches that men are to take the leadership roles in the body of believers and in the home. Sometimes men have left vacancies and women have filled those with God's blessing.

I am really with the ladies here who say they are busy enough with the things on their plate right now and don't have time to take up other roles. But I would not tell a women who felt called to a position of ministry that she was wrong. How do I know that she is not one of God's exceptions such as Deborah was?