Blue eye gene

[mikeinsarasota]

Oh, gosh, I'm not mocking you! I'm ribbing you for being so serious. About cockroaches, no less! Notice the up there? If I was being unpleasant I would have a and if mocking it would be a . Sorry if you were offended, mike. It was not intended that way. Look.....

If I wanted a humorous conversation or to be ribbed, I'd visit a comedy forum. God is not comedy. There are people here trying to refute Him, that is no laughing matter.

Oh well.....I apologized so ....whatever!

So that's the mocking tone you were speaking of?

[MorningGlory]

Glory2000

I've given you the answer "THERE IS A MECHANISM THAT HALTS MICROEVOLUTION." I don't know what it is, scientists don't and you don't either. So asking me over and over again is kinda silly.

Don't worry, I've stopped asking.

Glory2000

Sure, I hold on to my hypothesis even though I've not got physical evidence that it's true. Why not? You hold on to the TOE without a shred of evidence as to it's validity.

Actually that's not true. There is literally a mountain of evidence for evolution and I've posted chucks of it many times and had it ignored every time (the standard dismissal being to call the source a 'well known anti-creationist website' as if even if that were true it would somehow invalidate the physical evidence they offer). So don't assume that just because I've given up posting it that it's not there. You could find it yourself in seconds using google.

Glory2000

And we don't 'know' that speciation happened. You may know it. I say it didn't happen.

Speciation means that a species evolves in two directions substantially enough that one group can no longer produce fertile offspring with the other group. This has been observed many times. Notice that in this wiki article, for the four modes of speciation (allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric) an example is given for each. If you are trying to tell me that speciation hasn't happened, you have a lot of science to overturn. I will say it again, what you mean to say is that separation of a 'kind' has never been observed outside of the fossil record.

Glory2000

You see, cache, you can pull all the rabbits out of hats you want; they're still rabbits and didn't evolve from anything else. They will also become extinct at some point.

An argument from common sense? I still see no evidence for your contention that all species will eventually become extinct or that it is somehow encoded into their genes.

Glory2000

Evolutionists have been pointing to algae and fruit flies to prove evolution and have failed so far. Do you have any evidence that proves speciation then?

Plenty, see the wiki for starters.

Don't do Wiki.....but I will check out ScienceWeekly and the like. If I can see proof, not theory, that would make me think. Oh, and btw, I KNOW what speciation means, cache, so please don't tell me what I'm trying to convey.

[mikeinsarasota]

Don't do Wiki.....but I will check out ScienceWeekly and the like. If I can see proof, not theory, that would make me think. Oh, and btw, I KNOW what speciation means, cache, so please don't tell me what I'm trying to convey.

Sorry, but what is ScienceWeekly?

[MorningGlory]

I've given you the answer "THERE IS A MECHANISM THAT HALTS MICROEVOLUTION." I don't know what it is, scientists don't and you don't either. So asking me over and over again is kinda silly. Sure, I hold on to my hypothesis even though I've not got physical evidence that it's true. Why not? You hold on to the TOE without a shred of evidence as to it's validity. What's the difference? And we don't 'know' that speciation happened. You may know it. I say it didn't happen. You see, cache, you can pull all the rabbits out of hats you want; they're still rabbits and didn't evolve from anything else. They will also become extinct at some point. Evolutionists have been pointing to algae and fruit flies to prove evolution and have failed so far. Do you have any evidence that proves speciation then?

Don't you think that a search for this mechanism would be something creation scientists would be all over? I have seen no evidence that they are.

Interesting how you hold to your hypothesis without evidence.

Your statement about lack of evidence for the theory of evolution is simply wrong. There is much evidence. However, I suspect that your faith makes it impossible for you to examine it.

There's no evidence that scientists are NOT looking for the elusive mechanism either, is there?

No, my faith doesn't make it impossible; it makes unnecessary. FYI, I believed in evolution until five years ago; I DID go to American schools from kindergarten through university. I still believe in microevolution....and in the One who created it all.

[MorningGlory]

Don't do Wiki.....but I will check out ScienceWeekly and the like. If I can see proof, not theory, that would make me think. Oh, and btw, I KNOW what speciation means, cache, so please don't tell me what I'm trying to convey.

Sorry, but what is ScienceWeekly?

The wrong thing! Sorry; I meant Science Magazine (sciencemag.org). I don't know where the 'Weekly' came from.

[mikeinsarasota]

I've given you the answer "THERE IS A MECHANISM THAT HALTS MICROEVOLUTION." I don't know what it is, scientists don't and you don't either. So asking me over and over again is kinda silly. Sure, I hold on to my hypothesis even though I've not got physical evidence that it's true. Why not? You hold on to the TOE without a shred of evidence as to it's validity. What's the difference? And we don't 'know' that speciation happened. You may know it. I say it didn't happen. You see, cache, you can pull all the rabbits out of hats you want; they're still rabbits and didn't evolve from anything else. They will also become extinct at some point. Evolutionists have been pointing to algae and fruit flies to prove evolution and have failed so far. Do you have any evidence that proves speciation then?

Don't you think that a search for this mechanism would be something creation scientists would be all over? I have seen no evidence that they are.

Interesting how you hold to your hypothesis without evidence.

Your statement about lack of evidence for the theory of evolution is simply wrong. There is much evidence. However, I suspect that your faith makes it impossible for you to examine it.

There's no evidence that scientists are NOT looking for the elusive mechanism either, is there?

No, my faith doesn't make it impossible; it makes unnecessary. FYI, I believed in evolution until five years ago; I DID go to American schools from kindergarten through university. I still believe in microevolution....and in the One who created it all.

Until such a mechanism is found, the intellectually responsible thing to do would be to negate it. There's no reason to believe there is a giant octopus circling the Crab nebula, so why would one choose to believe so? Just because we have a gut feeling, or would like to believe something, doesn't make it so.

[MorningGlory]

Repeat after me, "Proof is a concept for math and good whiskey"

[MorningGlory]

And I still see no evidence for your contention that all species will eventually become extinct and be replaced or that it is somehow encoded into their genes. All you've said so far is that 99% of species are extinct, and asserted that this somehow invalidates evolution and proves your hypothesis.

I most certainly did NOT say that the built in obsolescence theory invalidates evolution or that it proves my hypothesis. The fact that very old species haven't evolved and that most species went extinct could all be a huge coincidence. It's all theory without definitive proof....yet. I very much dislike having words put in my mouth.

[MorningGlory]

I've given you the answer "THERE IS A MECHANISM THAT HALTS MICROEVOLUTION." I don't know what it is, scientists don't and you don't either. So asking me over and over again is kinda silly. Sure, I hold on to my hypothesis even though I've not got physical evidence that it's true. Why not? You hold on to the TOE without a shred of evidence as to it's validity. What's the difference? And we don't 'know' that speciation happened. You may know it. I say it didn't happen. You see, cache, you can pull all the rabbits out of hats you want; they're still rabbits and didn't evolve from anything else. They will also become extinct at some point. Evolutionists have been pointing to algae and fruit flies to prove evolution and have failed so far. Do you have any evidence that proves speciation then?

Don't you think that a search for this mechanism would be something creation scientists would be all over? I have seen no evidence that they are.

Interesting how you hold to your hypothesis without evidence.

Your statement about lack of evidence for the theory of evolution is simply wrong. There is much evidence. However, I suspect that your faith makes it impossible for you to examine it.

There's no evidence that scientists are NOT looking for the elusive mechanism either, is there?

No, my faith doesn't make it impossible; it makes it unnecessary. FYI, I believed in evolution until five years ago; I DID go to American schools from kindergarten through university. I still believe in microevolution....and in the One who created it all.

Ah, is that why there seems to be such a lack of intellectual curiosity in Christian fundamentalists? So sad, really.

Lack of intellectual curiosity? What do you call the blind faith of following the TOE? Darwin has been dead for over a century and yet the theory is still....a theory. Your attempts to patronize and ridicule people of faith are getting really old. And they are pretty weak attempts at best; if you don't want to read Christian viewpoints why are you here?

[mikeinsarasota]

Lack of intellectual curiosity? What do you call the blind faith of following the TOE? Darwin has been dead for over a century and yet the theory is still....a theory. Your attempts to patronize and ridicule people of faith are getting really old. And they are pretty weak attempts at best; if you don't want to read Christian viewpoints why are you here?

Does it need to be said again? Gravity is still...a theory. Relativity is still...a theory.