conservative talk radio

[dgolvach]

I will start this thread by proudly admitting that I have listened to Limbaugh and Hannity for years. I even had the pleasure of meeting Sean and found him to be a true gentleman. However, I have sorta come to a fork in the road with these guys. I understand that Sen. McCain is not an ideal conservative but I really don't see where any of the candidates that the republican party put up this election cycle were "ideal" in the Reagan sence. But hearing statements from Ann Coulter such as " I will campaine for Hillary because she is more conservative than McCain" are throwing me for a loop. I realize that in the past few years McCain has attached himself to the legistlative enemy of conservatives and it was fair to call him out on it. But I have also heard this statement from Rush. "Work with what you have to work with". Sean Hannity has repeatedly stated that the war against radical Islam is the defineing issue of our time.

My question: Out of Obama, Clinton, McCain....who is best qualified for meeting the challenge of the "defining issue of our time"?Clinton flipflopped. Obama was consistantly against the war? McCain has been consistantly for standing up to nutjobs like Hussain? Not to mention his service to his country in Vietnam. OK if this is the defining issue of our time can we afford 4 to 8 years of Clinton, or Obama at this jucture?

Lets also consider the issue of life in the womb. We could have as many as 4 supreme court justices replaced in the next 4 to 8 years. Which candidate has voted cosistantly for the most prolife record?

As for taxes, which candidate has at least pleaged to make the Bush tax cuts permenate?(even though he didn't vote for it at first)

I don't agree with some of the legislation McCain has co-authored but to me its abit of a stetch to say that there isn't a difference between who appears to be the Republican nominee and the two Democrats. Clinton and Obama are working hard to push a socialist agenda. Neither one as far as I know spent 6 years of their lives in a enemy prision while fighting socialism.

As for the talk show hosts, I hope the concider these thing rather than the fact that they feel McCain thumbed his nose at them at times. Its not about saving face, its about saving the country that we debate about. Right?

McCain knows he needs the conservative wing of his party to win. The conservative wing of his party is going to need to work with him as well. Like it or not because we can't afford the alternative.

Dan

[dgolvach]

McCain has done a lot to make enemies within the Republican Party. For me, one of the most unforgivable was his call for his Senate colleagues to ignore the people who elected them, and vote for amnesty for illegal aliens. He also has the distinction of not only voting for things like Campaign Finance Reform, but for being the author of the bill. When it comes to judicial appointments, I don't trust him because he has a record of being a deal maker, and I think he would choose moderate to liberal judges to appease liberals. Granted, they would likely be better than Obama or Hillary choices, but they probably won't be Scalias. There is a lot for conservatives to swallow here.

I agree with you about Colter. The idea that any Republican would support Hillary is nuts. I will tell you the same thing I tell liberals when they say we are all robots following the voice of talk radio. Listeners to these programs think for themselves. I have had Rush and Hannity on all day, and it is obvious that neither one likes McCain. The message seems to be, let the liberals win this election, and get the blame for the mess they make, rather than having a Republican mess things up. I don't agree with that logic. I will probably vote for McCain if he is the nominee, but he could change that between now and November. I will be listening carefully to what he says, and it may be that I will be forced to do something I haven't done since voting, go for a 3rd party candidate. For now, I will tentatively plan on voting for the GOP nominee, even if it is McCain.

I have concidered the "let the libs win and take the blame" scenerio and while there is merit to this thinking, I still feel that we are in too dangerous of an enviroment with radical Islam to allow Obama or Hillary to take charge. Plus the pro-life thing. I do believe that standing up to radical Islam is the defenitive issue of our time. We just have too much at stake in 2008.

Dan

[kat8585]

McCain knows he needs the conservative wing of his party to win.

Dan

That's why he is lying thru his teeth.

[Guest]

But I have also heard this statement from Rush. "Work with what you have to work with". Sean Hannity has repeatedly stated that the war against radical Islam is the defining issue of our time.

My question: Out of Obama, Clinton, McCain....who is best qualified for meeting the challenge of the "defining issue of our time"? Clinton flip flopped. Obama was consistently against the war? McCain has been consistently for standing up to nut jobs like Hussain? Not to mention his service to his country in Vietnam. OK if this is the defining issue of our time can we afford 4 to 8 years of Clinton, or Obama at this juncture?

Wossers! That's A Tough Question

The Correct Answer Is.....

"The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will" Proverbs 21:1

The Trouble With The USA And With All The Other Nations Is The Sin Of Hatred Against Israel And Of Pride Against The LORD

"This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts. The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him, every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen" Zephaniah 2:10-11

All At Worthy That Can, Will No Doubt Prayerfully Vote And Pray

"Pray without ceasing" 1 Thessalonians 5:17

And Pray Again

"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee" Psalms 122:6

And Rejoice

"Rejoice evermore" 1 Thessalonians 5:16

And Look Up

"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished" Isaiah 51:6

And Rejoice

"And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh" Luke 21:28

[MorningGlory]

McCain has done a lot to make enemies within the Republican Party. For me, one of the most unforgivable was his call for his Senate colleagues to ignore the people who elected them, and vote for amnesty for illegal aliens. He also has the distinction of not only voting for things like Campaign Finance Reform, but for being the author of the bill. When it comes to judicial appointments, I don't trust him because he has a record of being a deal maker, and I think he would choose moderate to liberal judges to appease liberals. Granted, they would likely be better than Obama or Hillary choices, but they probably won't be Scalias. There is a lot for conservatives to swallow here.

I agree with you about Colter. The idea that any Republican would support Hillary is nuts. I will tell you the same thing I tell liberals when they say we are all robots following the voice of talk radio. Listeners to these programs think for themselves. I have had Rush and Hannity on all day, and it is obvious that neither one likes McCain. The message seems to be, let the liberals win this election, and get the blame for the mess they make, rather than having a Republican mess things up. I don't agree with that logic. I will probably vote for McCain if he is the nominee, but he could change that between now and November. I will be listening carefully to what he says, and it may be that I will be forced to do something I haven't done since voting, go for a 3rd party candidate. For now, I will tentatively plan on voting for the GOP nominee, even if it is McCain.

I listened to Rush and Hannity today too and yes, I heard the same thing...."let the liberals mess it up and then come back in 2012". These people have absolutely no regard for this country; it's their agenda that is important to them and their ratings. They have both lost whatever respect I had for them; not to mention...their minds! As for Ann Coulter...she's just being Coulter. Whatever gets the limelight for herself. I will not vote for McCain. Maybe I can write in my choice; Mike Huckabee.

[Guest LadyC]

i rarely listen to rush... in fact i don't really listen to hannity much anymore, although i do enjoy listening to him. i don't think their agenda and ratings are what is so important to them as much as it is total disgust with who we have on the republican ticket. they feel that mccain will do enormous damage to the party, as well as to the country... while if obama or hillary destroy our country, at least if the republican party is intact, there may be something salvageable down the road.

i don't think it's agenda driven so much as it is damage control.

but i don't personally agree with it, and if given the choice between one of those two and mccain, i will put my full support behind mccain.

[georgesbluegirl]

McCain has done a lot to make enemies within the Republican Party. For me, one of the most unforgivable was his call for his Senate colleagues to ignore the people who elected them, and vote for amnesty for illegal aliens. He also has the distinction of not only voting for things like Campaign Finance Reform, but for being the author of the bill. When it comes to judicial appointments, I don't trust him because he has a record of being a deal maker, and I think he would choose moderate to liberal judges to appease liberals. Granted, they would likely be better than Obama or Hillary choices, but they probably won't be Scalias. There is a lot for conservatives to swallow here.

I agree with you about Colter. The idea that any Republican would support Hillary is nuts. I will tell you the same thing I tell liberals when they say we are all robots following the voice of talk radio. Listeners to these programs think for themselves. I have had Rush and Hannity on all day, and it is obvious that neither one likes McCain. The message seems to be, let the liberals win this election, and get the blame for the mess they make, rather than having a Republican mess things up. I don't agree with that logic. I will probably vote for McCain if he is the nominee, but he could change that between now and November. I will be listening carefully to what he says, and it may be that I will be forced to do something I haven't done since voting, go for a 3rd party candidate. For now, I will tentatively plan on voting for the GOP nominee, even if it is McCain.

I listened to Rush and Hannity today too and yes, I heard the same thing...."let the liberals mess it up and then come back in 2012". These people have absolutely no regard for this country; it's their agenda that is important to them and their ratings. They have both lost whatever respect I had for them; not to mention...their minds! As for Ann Coulter...she's just being Coulter. Whatever gets the limelight for herself. I will not vote for McCain. Maybe I can write in my choice; Mike Huckabee.

To do the assessment justice, it should be noted that many people are hoping for a Carter-Reagan kind of situation.

[MorningGlory]

To do the assessment justice, it should be noted that many people are hoping for a Carter-Reagan kind of situation.

We can't afford it.

[dgolvach]

McCain has done a lot to make enemies within the Republican Party. For me, one of the most unforgivable was his call for his Senate colleagues to ignore the people who elected them, and vote for amnesty for illegal aliens. He also has the distinction of not only voting for things like Campaign Finance Reform, but for being the author of the bill. When it comes to judicial appointments, I don't trust him because he has a record of being a deal maker, and I think he would choose moderate to liberal judges to appease liberals. Granted, they would likely be better than Obama or Hillary choices, but they probably won't be Scalias. There is a lot for conservatives to swallow here.

I agree with you about Colter. The idea that any Republican would support Hillary is nuts. I will tell you the same thing I tell liberals when they say we are all robots following the voice of talk radio. Listeners to these programs think for themselves. I have had Rush and Hannity on all day, and it is obvious that neither one likes McCain. The message seems to be, let the liberals win this election, and get the blame for the mess they make, rather than having a Republican mess things up. I don't agree with that logic. I will probably vote for McCain if he is the nominee, but he could change that between now and November. I will be listening carefully to what he says, and it may be that I will be forced to do something I haven't done since voting, go for a 3rd party candidate. For now, I will tentatively plan on voting for the GOP nominee, even if it is McCain.

I listened to Rush and Hannity today too and yes, I heard the same thing...."let the liberals mess it up and then come back in 2012". These people have absolutely no regard for this country; it's their agenda that is important to them and their ratings. They have both lost whatever respect I had for them; not to mention...their minds! As for Ann Coulter...she's just being Coulter. Whatever gets the limelight for herself. I will not vote for McCain. Maybe I can write in my choice; Mike Huckabee.

To do the assessment justice, it should be noted that many people are hoping for a Carter-Reagan kind of situation.

George and would have voted republican...I'm sure of it.

Georgesbluegirl.....Don't you remember Harrison's conservative lyrics in Taxman? Sounds like trickle-down economics to me.

Dan

[georgesbluegirl]

Haha perhaps. Trickle-down WILL actually work - the problem is it takes 30-40 years. It's impractical for a president to try to implement it because he or she is only in office for 4-8 years, and after that the next president is going to want to put their policy in place...so you only see the up front benefits for the "top shelf," and not the long term effects for all social strata. Of course, presidents should really keep their noses out of the economy because they don't have much effect on it anyway (apart from major decisions like starting wars).

There's my 2 cents.