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So, was Adam with Eve in the Garden when she ate?

If he was, then why did he do nothing to stop her from eating?

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Genesis 3:6 states:

"When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it."

So yes, Adam was with Eve in the garden.

Why didn't he stop her? :thumbsup: That I think is left to supposition. :24:


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So, was Adam with Eve in the Garden when she ate?

If he was, then why did he do nothing to stop her from eating?

Adam was in the garden as that is where both of them dwelt at this time. However it seems as if Eve wondered away from Adam and was in another part of the garden at the time when the serpent came and decieved Eve into eating the fruit of the tree of good and evil. Once Eve's eyes were opened that is when she took the fruit of the forbidden tree unto Adam and he ate.

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So, was Adam with Eve in the Garden when she ate?

If he was, then why did he do nothing to stop her from eating?

Adam was in the garden as that is where both of them dwelt at this time. However it seems as if Eve wondered away from Adam and was in another part of the garden at the time when the serpent came and decieved Eve into eating the fruit of the tree of good and evil. Once Eve's eyes were opened that is when she took the fruit of the forbidden tree unto Adam and he ate.

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See, that was what I have always believed, but something recently occurred to me.

The way the passage is worded, it appears that their eyes were not opened until after both of them ate:

Gen. 1:6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of it's fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her and he ate, thenthe eyes of both of them were opened

By the wording of this passage, it appears, not only that both of their eyes were opened simultaneously, but that it happened after Adam ate. We are not told exactly how much time there was between the moment that Eve ate, and the moment that Adam ate, but apparently, there was a progression there:

(a) Eve ate

(b) She gave to Adam


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He was standing right next to her, otherwise she could not have turned to give him the fruit. And they were both there. Her spiritual covering failed her....both of them as one looked at that fruit.

Eve did not wander from Adan. where to you get that. He was there watching her. Would you let your gorgeous woman wander far off. It is another fallacy and a old prejuduce to think otherwise.


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He was standing right next to her, otherwise she could not have turned to give him the fruit. And they were both there. Her spiritual covering failed her....both of them as one looked at that fruit.

So, then, was Adam deceived as well? From what I understand, Eve was the one deceived, and that Adam just gave into his wife. If he was standing right there when the serpent tricked her, why is it that we automatically assume that she was deceived, and he wasn't?


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Eve did not wander from Adan. where to you get that. He was there watching her. Would you let your gorgeous woman wander far off. It is another fallacy and a old prejuduce to think otherwise.

This confuses me. Why would he let her be deceived like this? Why wouldn't he have stepped in?

This explanation paints him to be either a complete wimp, or a complete monster

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So, was Adam with Eve in the Garden when she ate?

If he was, then why did he do nothing to stop her from eating?

Interesting question.

I don't have all the answers, but I think part of the reason things happened the way they did in that passage is that God considers the man to be head of the marriage. Scripture speaks in other places of the husband being the family priest, etc. and responsible for spiritual matters. It also says that "the 2 will become as one", so if the husband is the head of the wife in marriage -- he ate the fruit, and both their eyes were opened.

Anyone read Hebrew? Maybe something was lost in translation?


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My personal opinion is that they both had discussions about it not mentioned. When wives want something or wonder about something they share it. I think Adam was interested as well but He was the one the specific command was given to directly from God. Eve was given the command from her husband. I think his ability to be more firm was because of that. It is why Eve was able to falter...but Adam should have been there to stop her. They both lusted after the fruit.

I always thought satans sin was pride..but now I am beginning to think self illusion was his problem.

She ate from the fruit and then gave it to her husband.

No where does it say that Adam got fearful. Fear was not a factor until after taking the bite, the knowledge of good and evil certainly made them wise..., they spititually died.!!!

It is a old teaching whether you think men generated it or not..it has kept women subserviant because of that belief. It was eves fault..adam responds, it was the serpents fault Eve responds...they did not even take responsibility for their sin....God was angered because not only did they disobey but also they blamed everyone except themselves.

Satan can tempt...we have to follow or deny ourselves... Praise the Lord we have Such a great High Priest, Jesus.

I will tell you this. Adam calls eve , eve. God called them both adam. He made no distinction.

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this was actually part of what was covered in the women's conference i attended this weekend... i'm gonna put on my thinking cap and try to recall what was said.

the command to not eat from the tree was actually given to adam alone, not to eve, because it occurred prior to eve having been created. (i'm gonna have to go back and read the account in scripture to make sure that is correct.) now we can assume that eve was aware of the command, but that it came to her from adam, not directly from God, unless that's just one of those minor details that scripture leaves out.

furthermore, satan knew exactly how to get to eve. she never even knew what hit her, because, created to be a nurturer, all of what satan said to her appealed to every aspect of how God had created her, and it never once seemed to sink in that WHAT satan was telling her would be an evil thing to do... because sin had never happened yet, so neither did the INTENT to disobey. what satan was telling her seemed to be a logical extention of how God had created her....

nurturers do what? they provide nourishment. so does food.

nurturers appreciate what? beauty. the food of the tree was pleasing to the eye. it was pretty. she'd probably never even noticed it as pretty before.

nurturers need lots of what? wisdom. the serpent said it would give her wisdom.

and following that train of thought (this part was not discussed at the conferance, the focus was on eve), i would think that adam didn't have any intent of malice or wrongdoing either. he had complete trust in the woman that God had created from his rib, because there had never been any precedent for distrust. God had created her as his help-mate.... to help him in all areas of nourishment... physical, spiritual, social, etc. and just as SHE had been deceived, so was adam deceived. she influenced him wrongly... but neither of them had anything in their background to know what "wrongly" was.

i mean, WE can look at it and say "how incredibly naieve... he knew God said don't, how could he possibly not understand that doing it anyway would be wrong?" but think of it like this... you tell a toddler not to touch a hot stove. they understand you said "no", but they don't understand that doing it anyway is wrong, or disobedient, because the baby hasn't yet had enough life experience to learn that yet.

anyway, i always thought it was funny that adam's first instinct was to point fingers and blame someone else...

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