Mr. Oboma's Connections

[kat8585]

It's ok. I see that obviously you don't have an answer. It's not a matter of impatience, it's a matter of evading the question.

I am indeed evading the invitation to write a lengthy post about abortion in this thread about Barack Obama. Frankly, abortion is an issue that deserves its own thread. Until that thread appears, you can think and say whatever you'd like, kat. I certainly can't stop you from impersonating a kindergartner who's got ants in her pants.

Butero's question:

Barack Hussein Obama is more than pro-choice. He supports infanticide. He supports the practice of partial birth abortion, where a baby is pulled out of the womb, sometimes in the 9th month of pregnancy, a needle is incerted in the back of it's skull, and it's brains are sucked out. If the baby were pulled out without it's brains being sucked out, it would live. No Christian could support that, or vote for anyone that does. What exactly is your view on that Lorax, and how is that not evil?

Not to hi-jack the thread, but partial birth abortion goes beyond abortion, it's infanticide. That's not evil? Obama supports it, yet claims to be a Christian.

You can also lose the un-called for childish personal attacks, please.

[nikos]

This man Obama is a fraud. The American people better wake up. Remember I told you so!!!!

[nikos]

This man Obama is a fraud. The American people better wake up. Remember I told you so!!!!

http://americandust.wordpress.com/

[forrestkc]

Read this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

Christians do not compromise their religion.

So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

[Guest]

Remember I told you so!!!!

OK

The Real Deal

The Man Of Sorrows

Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Isaiah 53

The KING OF KINGS

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 19:11-16

Vote Jesus - Believe

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

And Be Blessed Beloved

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[kat8585]

So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

[nikos]

I will never vote for a candidate that is pro-abortion. I do not believe in murder.

[JustinM]

Defense

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Date Bill Title Vote

01/22/2008 Defense Authorizations Bill NV

12/18/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment NV

12/18/2007 Inclusion of Iraq and Afghanistan Military Operations Funding with the Consolidated Appropriations NV

11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq Y

11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense N

10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 NV

09/21/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Amendment Y

09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments Y

07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees NV

07/18/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Y

05/24/2007 Emergency Departmental Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 N

04/26/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 with Iraq Withdrawal Timeline Y

11/15/2005 Status of Detainees Substitute Amendment Y

11/15/2005 Judicial Review of Detainees Amendment Y

11/10/2005 Detainees at Guantanamo Bay Amendment N

11/08/2005 National Commission on Detainees Amendment Y

07/26/2005 National Defense Authorization Act - Cloture N

The only times he voted yes on defense, was in favor of the terrorists at guantanamo bay, or to vote to get the troops out of Iraq. His no's or no votes were for funding and supplements. A no vote, is the same as a no, in my book.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

Gun Issues

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Date Bill Title Vote

02/25/2008 Prohibiting Funds in the Bill S 1200 from Being Used to Decrease Gun Ownership NV

07/13/2006 Firearm Confiscation Prohibition Amendment Y

07/29/2005 Firearms Manufacturers Protection bill N

07/28/2005 Child Safety Lock Amendment

Immigration

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Date Bill Title Vote

10/24/2007 Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants Y

10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV

07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations NV

07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV

06/28/2007 Second Immigration Act of 2007 Y

06/07/2007 Immigration Act of 2007 Y

06/06/2007 Declaring English the National Language N

06/06/2007 Denying Legal Status for Immigrants Convicted of Certain Crimes N

06/06/2007 Point Based Immigration Expiration Date Y

06/06/2007 Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications N

06/06/2007 Five Year Expiration for Guest Worker Program Y

06/06/2007 Barring Immigrants with Certain Criminal Histories Y

06/06/2007 English as the Common Language Y

05/23/2007 Guest Worker Number Reduction Amendment Y

10/31/2006 Secure Fence Act of 2006 Y

07/13/2006 Double-Layered Fencing Amendment N

06/20/2006 Triple-Layered Fencing Amendment Y

05/25/2006 Confidentiality Requirement Amendment N

05/25/2006 Immigration Reform Bill Y

05/24/2006 H-2C Visa Program Ammendment Y

05/23/2006 Orange Card Program Amendment Y

05/23/2006 Employer Verification Amendment Y

05/18/2006 "State Criminal Alien Assistance Program" Amendment Y

05/18/2006 English As National Language Amendment N

05/18/2006 English as Unifying Language Amendment Y

05/17/2006 Employment-based Immigrant Visa Amendment N

[JustinM]

Michelle Obama's anti-capitalist comments:

http://dealbreaker.com/2008/03/michelle_ob...s_the_poors.php

[faith pleases God]

Read this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

Christians do not compromise their religion.

So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

This is sickening. To suggest voting is so important that one should compromise their own beliefs so that they can have a say that is insignificant anyway. Where's the integrity in this. One is better to be true to themselves than to compromise their beliefs for something so awry anyway. We have been so dumbed down to think voting is more important than our values and beliefs. Our nation is in trouble. Much because of this type of thought pattern. Rock your vote dude!