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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

It's a matter of who will do the least damage to the country as a whole.


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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

Well, if in your example one of the two dictators was GUARANTEED to become "president", then yes, I would certainly vote. I would vote for the one I feel would do less bad than the other guy.

Here's the real kicker that some people seem to overlook: voting for someone doesn't mean you support all their policies :whistling:


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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

It's a matter of who will do the least damage to the country as a whole.

In theory I understand. But we are controlled by those who control our currency. These people are puppets. It's a popularity contest over the most deceptive. But they are all going to do massive damage. The most likable or trustworthy (seemingly) will be able to do the most damage to us for the longest period of time.


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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

Well, if in your example one of the two dictators was GUARANTEED to become "president", then yes, I would certainly vote. I would vote for the one I feel would do less bad than the other guy.

Here's the real kicker that some people seem to overlook: voting for someone doesn't mean you support all their policies :whistling:

So, you would vote someone in office that was responsible for the murder of millions of people? If those were the only 2 candidates I had to choose from, I wouldn't vote for either. I'd vote for a 3rd party candidate, or write myself in.


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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

Well, if in your example one of the two dictators was GUARANTEED to become "president", then yes, I would certainly vote. I would vote for the one I feel would do less bad than the other guy.

Here's the real kicker that some people seem to overlook: voting for someone doesn't mean you support all their policies :whistling:

Good luck on your decision. Who's worse or worser? LOL! No your right, with all our choices given we can choose socialism (communism) or globalism. In the end both. Good luck with that.


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So you don't vote then right? Because any candidate you vote for you would have to compromise your Christian values to vote for them. The only question is which values you are willing to compromise.

It's almost always a matter of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Don't you agree, even tho I know you and I would disagree on which candidates those 2 evils would be?

Then why vote? Seriously. Are saying you are guessing who's less wicked? Quick Stalin or Hitler? Better yet take your time. Decide. Would you rather not hold your inegrity than compromise a choice of evil? To suggest we must vote at all costs even if it compromises our integrity is crazy to me. (BTW)- I'm sorry if this is coming off offensive. It's not my intention, nor is it personal in anyway.

Well, if in your example one of the two dictators was GUARANTEED to become "president", then yes, I would certainly vote. I would vote for the one I feel would do less bad than the other guy.

Here's the real kicker that some people seem to overlook: voting for someone doesn't mean you support all their policies :whistling:

So, you would vote someone in office that was responsible for the murder of millions of people? If those were the only 2 candidates I had to choose from, I wouldn't vote for either. I'd vote for a 3rd party candidate, or write myself in.

Yes, if it was a choice between the guy who murdered 2 million and the guy who murdered 3 million.


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Here is the issue that separates John McCain from either Hillary clinton or Barak Hussein Obama, partial birth abortion. Out of the three, McCain is the only one who doesn't support it. As such, it is a slam dunk that I will vote for him as opposed to his opponents.

It would be like the scenerio of having one candidate who agrees with every position I hold except for one thing. He believes that black people are not fully human, and that we should be able to kill them. His opponent is a man that I dissagree with on every issue, except he dissagrees with the idea that black people are less than human and should be able to be killed in the name of freedom of choice. What is taking place here is the same thing, except the ones being called less than human are unborn children. It is a no brainer that as a Christian, I would have to support the person who takes the position on the side of life.

It might be a no brainer to you, but it's not a no brainer to all Christians. If it was, there wouldn't be any contest as to who the next president would be, and there certainly wouldn't be abortion of any kind in the country. But there is, and it also happens to look like Obama may come away with the presidency. That tells me at least, that abortion is still a controversial issue, and it is not THE be-all-end-all issue that determines the presidency at this time. It may be for you, but I think the assumption every christian must vote for a pro-life candidate lest they not be christian is off base.

If that is your criteria, then you should support John McCain in November. He is pro-life and Barak Hussein Obama supports legalized abortion, including infanticide. Abortion claims the life of between 1 and 2 million babies each year, and his judicial appointments would lead to millions of more children dying.

You have to take into account McCain's approach to health care, McCain's approach to the middle eastern conflicts, and McCain's approach to Iraq. Abortion isn't the only thing causing death right now. Then you have to take into account what the future will hold if a certain candidate is in office, and how they will react to different situations.

There is no perfect Christian candidate; there will be sacrifices, and I believe that my choice in November (which will be either Obama or Clinton) will be the best choice when it comes to preserving this country, and doing good for people which will (hopefully) outweigh the bad that is done.


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quote hamburgers: "Yes, if it was a choice between the guy who murdered 2 million and the guy who murdered 3 million."

I don't believe that statement, I think you are being deliberately antagonistic, because I believe that no rational/moral human being would ever vote for a murderer to be US President.


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quote hamburgers: "Yes, if it was a choice between the guy who murdered 2 million and the guy who murdered 3 million."

I don't believe that statement, I think you are being deliberately antagonistic, because I believe that no rational/moral human being would ever vote for a murderer to be US President.

The sad part is they are voting for these people. And they are convinced they must decide between worse and worst. This is in itself being misled. Thinking they have no choice but evil because thats just how it is. And they think they must participate in it. This is what I mean when I say that as a nation we have been dumbed down. Instead of rising up and saying ENOUGH of this madness and changing things. They think to themselves who's more or less evil. Is this rational?

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