Anti-Zionist Jews

[Guest shiloh357]

I've decided to post some information on just what these anti-Zionist Jews stand for.

The most notorious group of anti-Zionist Jews is called Nuteri Karta. They are a fringe group of Orthodox Jews who are opposed to the creation of the state of Israel and are also outspoken activists who also support the desruction of Israel. The following article is from Masada2000.org.

"JUDENRATS FOR A SECOND HOLOCAUST"

NETUREI KARTA

These Jews Make Satan Look Good!

Whenever aconvicted mass murderer is finally captured, the first prayer that usually passes over the lips of a Jews is, "May the murderer not be Jewish!" Even the case of David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, the so-called ".44 Calibre Killer," caused a degree of consternation among the New York City's Jewish community. Fortunately, it turned out that Berkowitz may have had a Jewish father, but he converted to Christianity long before he went on his rampages! And, there might even be a kind word to say about Arab terrorist, Yasir Arafat... "At least he wasn't Jewish!"

And then there was Neturei Karta!

Neturei Karta is Aramaic for "Guardians of the City" or "Guardians of the Gates." Others say it's Aramaic for "Nut Kases!" They are a group of Ultra-Orthodox pseudo-Jewish heretics who reject all forms of Zionism and actively oppose the State of Israel. They claim to have a membership of about 5,000 but it is probably one zero less... about 500. However, what they lack in numbers, they make up in enthusiasm and outrageous behavior. Even though these freaks may act as if they're raving lunatics, they may actually be quite sane for, in both words and actions, this cult-like flock of devotees really do believe they are doing God's work!

The Neturei Karta were originally set up as a splinter breakaway movement in 1938, mainly by fanatical ultra-Orthodox Hungarian Jews. They are best known for marching arm in arm with Arafat and endorsing every anti-Israel terrorist and anti-Semite on the planet. They also want Israel destroyed and does not care if a Second Holocaust must take place in order to achieve this lofty goal. Israel, they feel, should be wiped off the map for it should never have been re-established by man but, rather, by the Messiah when He finally does come. In more general terms they also hate Israel because so many of her Jews are secularists and some eat pork!

Neturei Karta is driven by intense hatred not only toward secularist Jews but for all orthodox and observant Jews who happen not to share its ideas. It openly calls for Israel to be destroyed and it quite visibly supports the worst genocidal anti-Semites on the planet from Arab terrorists from Fatah head, Yasir Arafat, and Hamas leader, Sheikh Yassin, to, more recently, Iran's worldwide Islamic terror funder and Holocaust denier, Mamoud Ahmadinejad!

In total number Neturei Karta may represent merely one-half of one percent of the total ultra-orthodox rabbinical community but they seem to get 99

[jc49]

I've decided to post some information on just what these anti-Zionist Jews stand for.

The most notorious group of anti-Zionist Jews is called Nuteri Karta. They are a fringe group of Orthodox Jews who are opposed to the creation of the state of Israel and are also outspoken activists who also support the desruction of Israel. The following article is from Masada2000.org.

"JUDENRATS FOR A SECOND HOLOCAUST"

NETUREI KARTA

These Jews Make Satan Look Good!

Whenever aconvicted mass murderer is finally captured, the first prayer that usually passes over the lips of a Jews is, "May the murderer not be Jewish!" Even the case of David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, the so-called ".44 Calibre Killer," caused a degree of consternation among the New York City's Jewish community. Fortunately, it turned out that Berkowitz may have had a Jewish father, but he converted to Christianity long before he went on his rampages! And, there might even be a kind word to say about Arab terrorist, Yasir Arafat... "At least he wasn't Jewish!"

And then there was Neturei Karta!

Neturei Karta is Aramaic for "Guardians of the City" or "Guardians of the Gates." Others say it's Aramaic for "Nut Kases!" They are a group of Ultra-Orthodox pseudo-Jewish heretics who reject all forms of Zionism and actively oppose the State of Israel. They claim to have a membership of about 5,000 but it is probably one zero less... about 500. However, what they lack in numbers, they make up in enthusiasm and outrageous behavior. Even though these freaks may act as if they're raving lunatics, they may actually be quite sane for, in both words and actions, this cult-like flock of devotees really do believe they are doing God's work!

The Neturei Karta were originally set up as a splinter breakaway movement in 1938, mainly by fanatical ultra-Orthodox Hungarian Jews. They are best known for marching arm in arm with Arafat and endorsing every anti-Israel terrorist and anti-Semite on the planet. They also want Israel destroyed and does not care if a Second Holocaust must take place in order to achieve this lofty goal. Israel, they feel, should be wiped off the map for it should never have been re-established by man but, rather, by the Messiah when He finally does come. In more general terms they also hate Israel because so many of her Jews are secularists and some eat pork!

Neturei Karta is driven by intense hatred not only toward secularist Jews but for all orthodox and observant Jews who happen not to share its ideas. It openly calls for Israel to be destroyed and it quite visibly supports the worst genocidal anti-Semites on the planet from Arab terrorists from Fatah head, Yasir Arafat, and Hamas leader, Sheikh Yassin, to, more recently, Iran's worldwide Islamic terror funder and Holocaust denier, Mamoud Ahmadinejad!

In total number Neturei Karta may represent merely one-half of one percent of the total ultra-orthodox rabbinical community but they seem to get 99

[Yahsway]

Wow, i dont know what to say or even think about such persons. I am totally taken back by this. Do some of these people live in the state of Israel? Its like hating yourself. Whats up with that? This is just totally evil to me. Talk about your Judas (betrayer). May God forgive them and bring them to their senses quick!

[Afal]

Reading this has been an eye-opener for me. I didn't know that such people existed! :rolleyes:

[Guest yod]

this is kind of like abortionists....people opposed to humans

[EricH]

Yikers bikers

[Guest]

The LORD shall bless thee out of Zion: and thou shalt see the good of Jerusalem all the days of thy life. (Psalms 128:5)

[Guest shiloh357]

Wow, i dont know what to say or even think about such persons. I am totally taken back by this. Do some of these people live in the state of Israel? Its like hating yourself. Whats up with that? This is just totally evil to me. Talk about your Judas (betrayer). May God forgive them and bring them to their senses quick!

Yes, the Nuterei Karta is in Israel, and they are activists for the Palestinians there. They are also in other parts of the world as well.

This is what I meant when I said that anti-Semitic Jews are even more heinous than anti-Semitic Gentiles. When you are willing to call a holocaust down upon your own people, it shows the how nutso these people are.

The Nuterei Karta say that Israel can only exist when God wills it to exist. Their opposition to Zionism is based upon the delusion that Zionism created the modern state of Israel.

We who believe the Bible though, know that the Zionists do not get the credit for creating the state of Israel. Zionism is a good thing, but Zionism in and of itself could never have created the nation of Israel. The ONLY way the nation of Israel could have ever have been reborn was by the hand of God.

The thing is, the Jewish people, only three years after the Holocaust, did not have the power in themselves to create the nation of Israel. Israel even after declaring statehood, was a pauper nation when it went to war with six Arab nations bent upon destroying Israel.

The Nuterei Karta do not know the Tenach (Old Testament) very well at all. God promises in Ezekiel 36 and 37 that the Jews would return to the Land in unbelief and that AFTER they return to the Land, God will purify them and give them a new heart.

And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

(Ezekiel 36:23-27)

Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

(Ezekiel 37:11-14)

In both passages, Israel's spiritual rebirth occurs AFTER they return to the Land and are restored physically.

God also prophesies that when the Jewish people return to the Land, they will never leave it again.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

(Amos 9:14-15)

The above is not talking about the return from Babylon, for it says that they will never be pulled up from the Land. Clearly after final Roman victory of 135 AD over Bar Kochba and the expulsion of the Jewish people from the Land, it is clear that this prophecy was not fulfilled after the return of Babylon, but was still future. It is being fufilled today. Israel is stronger today than at any time in its history since the days of King David. This the first time in well over 2,000 years, that the Jewish people are living in their Land and are not being ruled over by another empire.

The ONLY explanation for the Land of Israel is the hand of God. There are too many miraculous victories in battle where Israel was facing what the world saw as sure defeat/annihilation, only to shock the internation community every time by not only winning, but winning big in every conflict.

No human endeavor can take the credit for Israel's existence today in the Land. Not even Zionism rightly deserves the credit. Only the Lord Himself, the One who owns the Land itself, can take the credit for the return of His people to their Land.

[Scarletprayers]

I never take anyone's word for anything without looking it up for myself. In order to find out what the Nuterei Karta believe I went to their websits.

Here is the link in case anyone else would like to check them out for themselves.

http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm

And you found what????? that Shiloh wasn't telling the truth or something????

[nebula]

SIXTH -- The Zionist State is always threatened by the dangers of war. Whereas the rest of world Jewry live in peace and security, (Except in a few places where the Zionists have undermined their security and fanned the flames of hatred)

What bubble do they live in?