ID goes to sleep

[mikeinsarasota]

Why not try discussion instead of anger every time someone disagrees with you?

The words that are coming from you are your own; please don't try to blame them on me.

And this is after you said:

You did not SAY that it was important. However, everything you post is in support of the TOE.

And again, what have I said in this thread in support of evolution??? putting words in other people's mouths again. A little intellectual honesty goes a long way, you know. But please try to stay on topic, thanks.

[artsylady]

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[MorningGlory]

Why not try discussion instead of anger every time someone disagrees with you?

The words that are coming from you are your own; please don't try to blame them on me.

And this is after you said:

You did not SAY that it was important. However, everything you post is in support of the TOE.

And again, what have I said in this thread in support of evolution??? putting words in other people's mouths again. A little intellectual honesty goes a long way, you know. But please try to stay on topic, thanks.

Arrogance will get you nowhere either. But, you're right, a little intellectual honesty does go a long way. I am honest about who I am and what I believe. I do not waffle and say maybe I'm this or that.....in other words, I'm upfront and unmistakably a Bible believing Christian. I maintain that the article is well written and the scientist did very good work.....the fact that I disagree with his findings remains. If that's not on topic for you then....whatever.

[mikeinsarasota]

It doesn't refute ID. If you think it does, I do not think you realize what ID is.

This is just the evolution or change of one component in response to another. ID is MULTIPLE components that all must be both fully formed and functioning perfectly SIMULTANEOUSLY otherwise every single one of the components is useless.

Another million dollar grant for nothing really new. Interesting but certainly does nothing to "chip away at ID".

Source, please.

[mikeinsarasota]

I maintain that the article is well written and the scientist did very good work.....the fact that I disagree with his findings remains.

What about his findings do you not agree with? Did you look at his data and find something different?

If that's not on topic for you then....whatever.

How old are you?

[MorningGlory]

What about his findings do you not agree with? Did you look at his data and find something different?

No, his data was well laid out; as I said before, he is a brilliant man. But, his findings don't agree with the Creation, as described in Genesis.

How old are you?

Never ask a lady her age, my friend; it's just safer that way.

[mikeinsarasota]

No, his data was well laid out; as I said before, he is a brilliant man. But, his findings don't agree with the Creation, as described in Genesis.

So are you saying you actually did look at his data and that you determined it to be "well laid out?" What does that mean anyway?

Edited March 15, 2008 by mikeinsarasota

[jadams_4040]

It seems the foundations of ID are being chipped away faster and faster now. Creationists should start devising a new pseudo-scientific theory soon.

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I really think most creationists are christian as well as you and i are? They have led a life of doing a job and probably getting paid for it. they have been taught there entire lives about evolution as creating the earth as we now have it. So therefore they do not think about the I.D part of things. and this derives mostly because evolution is true and evolution was created by the lord as well as everything else was created from dust. He also made evolution to have the things he created be able to adapt to changing enviornmemts and such as his great naster plan of the creation is being brought to fruitation still today as we speak. but it is a much wrong analogy to slap a label on evoltutionists that they are not Christian this is simply just not true. Evolution and intelligent design go hand in hand! the lord made it that way.

[MorningGlory]

Glory2000, the comment that Joe Thornton's research disproves ID was made by Christoph Adami. Your disagreement is with Adami, not Thornton.

You know, cache, you're right. I went back and reread the article and .....ooops! Well, I stand corrected.

[MorningGlory]

No, his data was well laid out; as I said before, he is a brilliant man. But, his findings don't agree with the Creation, as described in Genesis.

So are you saying you actually did look at his data and that you determined it to be "well laid out?" What does that mean anyway?

It means he did a good job of researching and presenting the results in a logical fashion. And, yes, I actually did read the thing......how else could I respond to it????