Complexity shocks those daft scientists once again

[heresyhunter]

artsylady,

Obviously the evolutionists are going to have to revise their pet theory. But what is your point? Theories are constantly being modified in light of new evidence. That is how science works. You seem to have more beef with science in general than with evolutionary theory in particular.

[artsylady]

I'm definitely in the Twilight Zone.

[heresyhunter]

I'm definitely in the Twilight Zone.

Well then I urge you to get back down to Earth so as to be an effective witness to God's Creation. I have to tell you, it pains me to have to get on another creationist's case for using lousy logic, but I have to stand up for what is true.

[TM75]

FOr the sake of the earth this scripture was written, with God's chosen in mind. Ye are the house of Israel and God is come to purge you from your sins. Enjoy your earth, be glad it has grown back and don't listen to the argument that it's not God's earth.

Ezekiel 36 (1537 Matthew Bible at faithofGod.net)

36:33

Moreover, thus sayeth the Lord GOD:|LORDE God| what time as I shall cleanse you from all your offenses, then will I make the cities to be occupied again, and will repair the places that be decayed.

36:34

The desolate land shall be builded again, which afore time lay waste in the sight of all them that went by.

36:35

Then shall it be said: this waste land is become like a garden of pleasure, and the void, desolate and broken down cities, are now strong, and fenced again.

36:36

Then the residue of the Heathen that lie round about you, shall know, that I am the LORD, which repair that was broken down, and plant again, that was made waste. Even I the LORD have spoken it, and will do it in deed.

36:37

Thus sayeth the Lord GOD:|LORDE God| I will yet once be found again of the house of Israel, and do this for them: I shall increase them as a flock of men.

36:38

Like as the holy flock and the flock of Jerusalem are in the high solempne feasts: so shall also the wild wasted cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know, that I am the LORD.

[artsylady]

Okay, just so we're all clear - everyone understands that this new finding flew in the face of yesterday's evolutionary thought then, right? (and by yesterday, I meant right before this finding) We are reading the same article, right?

If you had any real understanding of evolutionary theory you would understand that this was not an issue even before this "shocking" discovery.

I agree wholeheartedly 1000 percent that the theories of evolution are constantly changing in light of new evidence. What does SHOCK me, is that evolutionists somehow think this is some sort of a strength of the theory, when it's clearly a weakness of the validity of it in the first place. No matter WHAT they find, they'll just keep rewriting it. Now complex creatures gave rise to simple ones! Gimmeabreak!

[heresyhunter]

And, at the risk of incurring the wrath of some other posters here, artsy, you really do need to learn some science.

As a Creationist, I must agree with you, Jukia.

[artsylady]

Heresy Hunter:

Have at it. I'm busy anyway.

[artsylady]

What they are revising is the time-line of evolution, not the theory behind it.

Right, that the first ones were complex not simple.

Hey, i forgot, I'm outta here. Letting Heresy Hunter take over.

[heresyhunter]

What they are revising is the time-line of evolution, not the theory behind it.

Right, that the first ones were complex not simple.

Hey, i forgot, I'm outta here. Letting Heresy Hunter take over.

Take over what, exactly?

[nebula]

Here you state that scientists' understanding of evolution must be revised but not thrown out the window.

More specifically, I said that evolution ought to be thrown out the window for other reasons.

FYI - the little I gave meant my comment wasn't meant to be taken so seriously. From a certain perspective, it did kind-of come out funny. I wasn't meaning to make a debate issue out of it.

Just because new data calls for a revision of a theory does nto mean that the thoery ought to be rejected outright. We have to be responsible in our criticisms of evolutionary theory.

OK, now I understand what you are getting at.

Correct em if I am wrong, but it sounds as if the scientists are "ignoring" this question.

Which question, exactly?

What I stated above - how there seemed to have been a "jump" in complexity. How could the first animal have been more complex than previously thought? The proposed scenarios kind-of by-pass that.