Prophecy of America

[Catsmeow]

Perhaps JDJ, you would give some more "concrete" suggestions...because what you're saying doesn't make much sense.

Would you suggest all Christians set sail for a foreign land and escape "Sodom"?

I hate to break the news but Europe is a very dangerous place to be right now, and is crawling with Muslim extremists.

The rest of the world is paved in AIDs, poverty, war and famine. Much of it is already taken over by the Muslims now.

I've been to probably the most secular Muslim country there is...Indonesia. I can assure you, it's changed radically from when I was there. It's not even safe to go back now.

I suggest we grow where we're planted and instead of running away and abandoning our post, we wait until the Commander in Chief gives us our orders to leave. When that time comes, we'll exactly where to go...and not be running away in terror.

In God I Trust.... Cats

[Guest JDJ]

If you dont trust and love Yeshua more than that of your family, youre not worthy of Him. The greatest love is that to lay down your life for your friends in Yeshua. Hes my friend and Lord and I will try with every ounce of strength to obey the Father and His Gospel of PEACE which leads us to the first GREAT COMMANDMENT!

I understand you in your love for your children, especially you women. Yeshua loves you and wouldnt say the things He has to hurt you. Trust Him and obey Him, you will not be ashamed.

Edited June 7, 2004 by JDJ

[Guest JDJ]

The believers that trust and follow Yeshua are my family, not that of carnality, but of the Spirit, who groan for their chance to glorify the Father and be delivered in His Word.

[Guest idied2]

It was never about america to begin with. It was for and by the LORD JESUS CHRIST and HIS HOLY nation. The HOLY nation that makes it through the refiners furnace. People from every kingdom nation tribe and language.

These are the ones standing before the throne of JESUS CHRIST. Who came out of the great tribulation.

rev 7:9

After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands

Revelation 7:13-17

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?" 14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

In CHRIST JESUS :hug:

[gypc]

America.....America...The beautiful land. In your youth the nations of the world glorified me in saying, "She is great because she has not forsaken the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. She has proclaimed the blood of Jesus to the world and God has raised up a mighty people. Her streets are clothed with righteousness. Her belly is full of the Lord. Who can make war against her? For surely the arm of the Lord God, the Father of light, creator of all the earth has kept her and held back her shore. Has fought for her in the hour of threat and blessed her and made her great. Let us make peace with her, lest we be consumed".

Soon they will say, "who is she that we should fear? Has she not rejected her God that made her great? Her streets are clothed with shame, her belly is full of herself. Where is her beauty? Where is her splendor? Will God fight for such a wicked people? Her glory is gone. Her camp is in confussion. She does not know where she is going. Oh how the mighty land has fallen. For she is divided. Let us make war against her. Because of her vanity, she sees us not".

This is what the Lord says, You were an oppressed people. You cried unto me and I heard. You said "give us peace" and I did. You said "Give us wealth so we may proclaim your word without oppression" and I did. You said "this nation is set aside for the Lord" and I blessed you. For it was my will to make you great.

But now I am about to reject you. And you say "Why will you reject us? Is it because of abortion"? I, the Lord, tell you no! "Is it because of politicians? Moral decay"? No! It is because you have rejected me. You will say "How have we rejected you"? You have rejected my word. You have said in your heart "Let us mold and shape God's word into a sword of our lust" You say "There is no condemnation, my conscience is clear". But I tell you, It has been seared. Is my word a piece of clay that it can be molded? Or a piece of steel, that it can be bent? Am I not the God who has said, "I am the potter, you are the clay'? You are as it is written, "Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God"

You have cursed those who have stoned the prophets of old. You have said "Why wouldn't the people listen and repent"? But I tell you, You do the same. For I have sent men to preach against sin, and call all to repentance. But you have rejected and mocked those I have sent. You have stoned them publicly and cried out "Give us teachers who will satisfy us". So they have taught you delusions and things of demons. They have taught my grace is a license to sin. They deny the power in the Blood of the Lamb to destroy sin in sinful man. And you have received them and their teaching. And it satisfied you. You say " I have the peace! I have the peace!" But I tell you it is only temporary. For I have said, "here, take my yoke upon you" But you have said "The way of God is hard" Am I a man that I should lie?

The sin of this nation has come up before me. You have rejected to be governed by righteousness, so I will send you a government that will rule you with tyrany and injustice. My anger will not be turned back! But for the sake of the elect, those my children who repent and turn back to me, I will not totally consume you.

I will extend my hand of mercy more so than ever before but few will receive it and most will reject it because it will not please the flesh.

Your minds are full of myths and fables. You cannot see or hear. You do not even know what is real or fantasy. You say "What shall we do? This is what the Lord says...Lay down your idols and repent. Seek me now while I may be found. I am not a God that wants to destroy you. But you have rejected life. You are about to trotten under foot the Blood of the Lamb. Hear the word of the Lord!

You say "God would not let anything happen to us. He is a God of love". It is my mercy that allows tribulation but you lack understanding. I have proven my love but you look for it in the wrong places. My thoughts are not you thoughts nor my ways your ways. Stop saying " How do we know the mind of God?" For it is written " If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask God that giveth to all liberally and unbraideth not and it shall be given to him" For I, The Lord reveal to any who truly seek me.

I love you says the Lord, But I will pour out my wrath. I am merciful but I am also the God that judges. My word is complete, but you have chosen only to eat the pieces that please you. Am I divided? By no means! I, the Lord am one. My word is one. I and my word are one. Wake up oh sleeper, for the fulfillment of my word is at hand. Be watchful, repent and hear! Says the Lord!

[Guest idied2]

AMEN gypc

: :sam:

In CHRIST JESUS :hug

[Guest JDJ]

America.....America...The beautiful land. In your youth the nations of the world glorified me in saying, "She is great because she has not forsaken the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. She has proclaimed the blood of Jesus to the world and God has raised up a mighty people. Her streets are clothed with righteousness. Her belly is full of the Lord. Who can make war against her? For surely the arm of the Lord God, the Father of light, creator of all the earth has kept her and held back her shore. Has fought for her in the hour of threat and blessed her and made her great. Let us make peace with her, lest we be consumed".

Soon they will say, "who is she that we should fear? Has she not rejected her God that made her great? Her streets are clothed with shame, her belly is full of herself. Where is her beauty? Where is her splendor? Will God fight for such a wicked people? Her glory is gone. Her camp is in confussion. She does not know where she is going. Oh how the mighty land has fallen. For she is divided. Let us make war against her. Because of her vanity, she sees us not".

This is what the Lord says, You were an oppressed people. You cried unto me and I heard. You said "give us peace" and I did. You said "Give us wealth so we may proclaim your word without oppression" and I did. You said "this nation is set aside for the Lord" and I blessed you. For it was my will to make you great.

But now I am about to reject you. And you say "Why will you reject us? Is it because of abortion"? I, the Lord, tell you no! "Is it because of politicians? Moral decay"? No! It is because you have rejected me. You will say "How have we rejected you"? You have rejected my word. You have said in your heart "Let us mold and shape God's word into a sword of our lust" You say "There is no condemnation, my conscience is clear". But I tell you, It has been seared. Is my word a piece of clay that it can be molded? Or a piece of steel, that it can be bent? Am I not the God who has said, "I am the potter, you are the clay'? You are as it is written, "Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God"

You have cursed those who have stoned the prophets of old. You have said "Why wouldn't the people listen and repent"? But I tell you, You do the same. For I have sent men to preach against sin, and call all to repentance. But you have rejected and mocked those I have sent. You have stoned them publicly and cried out "Give us teachers who will satisfy us". So they have taught you delusions and things of demons. They have taught my grace is a license to sin. They deny the power in the Blood of the Lamb to destroy sin in sinful man. And you have received them and their teaching. And it satisfied you. You say " I have the peace! I have the peace!" But I tell you it is only temporary. For I have said, "here, take my yoke upon you" But you have said "The way of God is hard" Am I a man that I should lie?

The sin of this nation has come up before me. You have rejected to be governed by righteousness, so I will send you a government that will rule you with tyrany and injustice. My anger will not be turned back! But for the sake of the elect, those my children who repent and turn back to me, I will not totally consume you.

I will extend my hand of mercy more so than ever before but few will receive it and most will reject it because it will not please the flesh.

Your minds are full of myths and fables. You cannot see or hear. You do not even know what is real or fantasy. You say "What shall we do? This is what the Lord says...Lay down your idols and repent. Seek me now while I may be found. I am not a God that wants to destroy you. But you have rejected life. You are about to trotten under foot the Blood of the Lamb. Hear the word of the Lord!

You say "God would not let anything happen to us. He is a God of love". It is my mercy that allows tribulation but you lack understanding. I have proven my love but you look for it in the wrong places. My thoughts are not you thoughts nor my ways your ways. Stop saying " How do we know the mind of God?" For it is written " If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask God that giveth to all liberally and unbraideth not and it shall be given to him" For I, The Lord reveal to any who truly seek me.

I love you says the Lord, But I will pour out my wrath. I am merciful but I am also the God that judges. My word is complete, but you have chosen only to eat the pieces that please you. Am I divided? By no means! I, the Lord am one. My word is one. I and my word are one. Wake up oh sleeper, for the fulfillment of my word is at hand. Be watchful, repent and hear! Says the Lord!

Even so Father let your will be done.Amen.

[wordsower]

JDJ,

May I give my thoughts on your dream? I'm no interpreter but I notice a few things:

Those who come to Jesus must come as little children. The little girl could represent those who haven't come to Jesus yet.

The man in black, if Muslim, or any evil, is trying to prevent the girl from coming and in turn sending her to hell.

You were warned that he would hurt her and you were then supposed to try to rescue her. Instead you tried to fight the evil and the child perished.

I don't think the message is that we don't fight evil, we wrestle not with flesh and blood but with principalities and powers. We must work while there is still light, we must reach the world with truth. This does not mean that we don't help nations that we can help by going to war to defend the innocent. God mandated many wars and He will fight the ultimate war. Evil must be eliminated for truth to survive.

Don't know if that helps or not.

Blessings to you.

[Guest JDJ]

Much appreciated Wordsower.

Maybe you could interpret some others for us that Ive had. I had a vision on my wall the other night and I seen a maple(?) tree blowing in the foreground by turbulent wind.

Then in the background a bear breaking through a bush coming towards me, then it changed into a tiger and turned from me to the right and started walking away from me and then I seen it change again; the bear, tiger and a birdlike creature this time.

They walked through a large standing of what looked like palm trees and they started beating vehemently on the beasts. Then I was no longer to see and it gradually faded away.

I know what alot of you are thinking since 85% of internet traffic comes from the U.S. The before dream may be interpreted 5000 different ways, especially to those who dont want it meaning exactly what it does. Follow Yeshua.

Another. I was watching people build a beast that came alive. They were building it by what looked like flesh. It resembled a large t-rex only red. When they were completed I ran to a gigantic tree and climbed it. The beast came and stood by the tree and started trying to eat me.

While the tree was turning from side to side as if on a pivot blocking the beast from getting me. As this was happening I looked behind me in the sky and it was dark with all the stars out, but the sun was up. Then it changed to day and the moon was out and it was filling up from bottom to top in a red color.

Then I turned again and the tree I was in was beating the beast on the head very violently with its huge limb. Then the tree started turning in circles exposing me to the beast. I avoided it once, but then he bit me on my legs. I was able to pry his mouth open and retrieve my legs from its mouth. After I did this, his tail was handed to me and I stuffed it in his mouth and smashed his jaws close on top of his tail. I then threw the beast to the ground and it landed extremely hard, as if it had been falsley able to stand almost as high as the tree. I seen the beast curl into the fetal position with his mouth wide open exposing his many large, sharp, teeth.

When I have dreams like this its not really me doing these things, but rather Im witnessing it in the 1st person. As if I am in someone else and someone else is inside me. The stronger dictating most of the actions and me only doing something once and awhile.

[Guest JDJ]

JDJ,

May I give my thoughts on your dream? I'm no interpreter but I notice a few things:

Those who come to Jesus must come as little children. The little girl could represent those who haven't come to Jesus yet.

The man in black, if Muslim, or any evil, is trying to prevent the girl from coming and in turn sending her to hell.

You were warned that he would hurt her and you were then supposed to try to rescue her. Instead you tried to fight the evil and the child perished.

I don't think the message is that we don't fight evil, we wrestle not with flesh and blood but with principalities and powers. We must work while there is still light, we must reach the world with truth. This does not mean that we don't help nations that we can help by going to war to defend the innocent. God mandated many wars and He will fight the ultimate war. Evil must be eliminated for truth to survive.

Don't know if that helps or not.

Blessings to you.

Try reading the whole thing instead of picking out what you want to hear.