Faith or Unbelief

[herald2]

In the garden of Eden, God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree of knowledge.

Satan queried, "Hath God said?" He does his best to cause us to question God's Word.

[P_Joseph]

Just as I am, without one plea,

But that Thy blood was shed for me,

And that Thou bidst me come to Thee,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

Just as I am, and waiting not

To rid my soul of one dark blot,

To Thee whose blood can cleanse each spot,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

Just as I am, though tossed about

With many a conflict, many a doubt,

Fightings and fears within, without,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

Just as I am, poor, wretched, blind;

Sight, riches, healing of the mind,

Yea, all I need in Thee to find,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

Just as I am, Thou wilt receive,

Wilt welcome, pardon, cleanse, relieve;

Because Thy promise I believe,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

Just as I am, Thy love unknown

Hath broken every barrier down;

Now, to be Thine, yea, Thine alone,

O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

If all we had to do is Keep God's commandments Why did Jesus have to die?

[followerofjesus]

love fulfills the law. The law was created for the lawless.

[herald2]

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put My Spirit within you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in My statutes, and ye shall keep My judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,26.

When His Spirit dwells within us, He empowers us to keep His Word - His law. That is what walking in His Spirit is all about. The Holy Spirit will never lead us into sin, or, "the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4.

In Psalm 119, the word, "Word," is used, interchangeably, with "law," "judgments," "statutes," "precepts," "testimonies," "commandments,"...

His Word = His law.

Jesus said, "Not every one that saith, Lord, Lord, shall enter (Rev 22:14) into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness). Mt 7:21-23.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him IF we keep His commandments. He that saith, I KNOW HIM, and keepeth not His commandments, is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked." 1 John 2:3-6.

The children of Israel, Jesus, His disciples, and the New Testament Christians kept the Sabbath. If we are to walk as He walked, we must obey the fourth commandment.

He is, only, Lord to those who obey His Word - His law.

Edited July 10, 2008 by herald2

[dovewing]

In my opinion, unbelief can only be attained by someone who once believed.

The term "unbelievers" should not be used to describe lifelong athiests. They should be called nonbelievers.

My pet peeve of the day.

But wouldn't that mean that the term unrepentant could only be used of those who once repented?

I think the two terms are different, and in my understanding of what Gerioke was saying, she/he was only refering to the term "unbelievers" not every other word with the prefix "un"

I know it's a play on words but I do understand what you are getting at too, as far as I understand you cannot become unrepentant after you have repented - you only become disobedient.

Because you can't become unsaved once you have been saved can you??????

[herald2]

You can walk away from the Truth...Jesus never forces anyone to believe and obey.

[herald2]

And Satan twisted the Word of God on the Word of God (John 1:1; Rev 19:13) in the wilderness...we need to be very careful and study a doctrine from Genesis-Revelation, before we come to a conclusion.

[LionOfZion]

In my opinion, unbelief can only be attained by someone who once believed.

The term "unbelievers" should not be used to describe lifelong athiests. They should be called nonbelievers.

My pet peeve of the day.

But wouldn't that mean that the term unrepentant could only be used of those who once repented?

I think the two terms are different, and in my understanding of what Gerioke was saying, she/he was only refering to the term "unbelievers" not every other word with the prefix "un"

I know it's a play on words but I do understand what you are getting at too, as far as I understand you cannot become unrepentant after you have repented - you only become disobedient.

Because you can't become unsaved once you have been saved can you??????

Those born on remote islands would be "nonbelievers". Never being introduced to Christ. If one never knew how can they lose faith? Also Those born in an Athiest house hold might never be introduced to religion at all. So if they never did have faith, they have lost nothing... Therefore "nonbelievers". A born again Atheist could be considered an "unbeliever". Right?

[Gerioke]

The only way I can see everybody who doesn't believe being unbelievers, is if we are all born with an inherent belief in God and some gradually lose it due to our immediate environment.

[herald2]

That is what the Catholic/Protestant religious system has done - they, conveniently, bypass some of the Scriptures to suit their own purposes. That is why God calls her, "The Mother of harlots." Rev 17. She has traded His Word for her traditions.

We are in a spiritual warfare...but, Christians just want to party on.

Again, that is why we should imitate the Bereans and study the Scriptures, daily, to verify what we are hearing. Ultimately, it is our responsibility.

2 Tim 3:16 in the Greek reads, "Every Scripture is God breathed..." Man's opinions are not.

Edited July 13, 2008 by herald2