Saved (born again)???

[BobTriez]

Please don't think I'm not understanding what you are saying, because I do and I hope I never appeared to have insinuated something in regards to your walk with God....that was never intended. I just don't want someone questioning their salvation is all. I think they need to question their commitment, but not their salvation.

I'm going to respectfully withdraw from this topic in accordance with 1 Corinthians 1:10 as I'm starting to see a division forming when in reality there isn't one ( appearance of such though, and I feel it's time to move on )

I can agree to disagree and hope we can get on with things and win some souls!!!

Your Brother in Christ,

Bob

[Guest LadyC]

Ok from what I see so far is that it's just a comandment one should do - But if you don't it's not like you lose your salvation - Right? (Sorry just had to clarify that, so much to take in with all the dif. posts)

Can I ask why you haven't gotten baptized?

Debbie

[stevehut]

Bob,

Why shouldn't a person question their salvation? You don't think it's possible to hav a false sense of security?

[BobTriez]

Bob,

Why shouldn't a person question their salvation?  You don't think it's possible to hav a false sense of security?

You should never question your salvation. I know we all do at times, and it is human ( sinful ) nature to do so; but we need not and we should not. We are left with no uncertain terms in the Bible of our assurance of pardon. If you question your salvation, you are questioning the sufficiency of Christ's atonement. Plain and simple.

Why would one have a false sense of security ? Unless you aren't saved and you are living a life of sin and are a "Christian" for nothing more that "fire insurance", we need to have 100 % faith and assurance that Jesus is sufficient for our salvation.

This isn't debatable and it's non negotiable - it's Biblical. I think Paul sums it up very well....

Romans 8:31-39

31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?

33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.

34 Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died

[Khristeeanos]

Bob, you quoted Romans 8:31-39

I am curious to know why you didn't include other parts of Romans chapter 8. Namely the part where The Apostle Paul says that sin leads to spiritual death for a Christian.

Romans 8:12-13

...we have an obligation--but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it.  For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

[stevehut]

Why shouldn't a person question their salvation?

[Adstar]

Baptisim- If you feel that you need to be baptised do it. if not don't. let everyones conscience be clear before God.

One question can a person baptise themselves?

And friends this is a tread on baptisim not OSAS Once Saved Always Saved doctrine please start another thread if you want to talk about that

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[BobTriez]

Bob, you quoted Romans 8:31-39

I am curious to know why you didn't include other parts of Romans chapter 8.  Namely the part where The Apostle Paul says that sin leads to spiritual death for a Christian.

Romans 8:12-13

...we have an obligation--but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it.

[BobTriez]

Why shouldn't a person question their salvation?

[BoldlyProclaimingChrist]

If you are absolutely sure that you are saved, meaning you were drawn by the Lord first (God chooses us, we don't choose HIm), you realize your need for receiving Jesus' substitutionary death for our sins, you come to HIm with a sincere heart and ask for forgiveness and repent of your sins ---- then there is no need to question your salvation. However, Satan is working hard to make you feel like you have. These people under this type of attack, myself included in the past, must remember His promises as long as we KNOW we are saved, nobody will snatch us out of His hand.

However, I think it is IMPERATIVE that if you are not sure, that you do a gut check to make sure you are in fact saved. Were you truly seeking Him or did you just say a prayer and hope for the best? Did you respond to an altar call because everyone else did? Did you "receive" Him just to save your own hyde? I do believe many Christians have a false sense of salvation. I'm sure we all know some carnal Christians.

I think it's very dangerous to say to someone on the boards or elsewhere that "you are saved" when you don't know their hearts. Only God knows their hearts and their eternal destiny. It is very dangerous for us to make that call - we have no right. We must find out if the way and the reasons they came to Christ is Biblical. After all, we don't want to kid ourselves or mislead others do we?