Why cant Satan and demons repent?

[simpleword]

John 12:31,Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 16:11,Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Satan has blasphemed the Holy Ghost,for he called God's work evil and His plan not good enough,

satan said that he would be like the most high God.

satan calls the plan of reproduction evil,as so many others do when they feel God does not have the abilty to keep it all together,some people have gone as far as saying that the King James version of the bible needs to be different,or easyer to understand,they say that God needs help and that His original translation needs some changes.satan cannot also because he wants not to have a Lord over him.

God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Ghost had and have a wonderful plan,a plan of wonderful relationships between them and us,satan hated that perfect love and compassion,God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Ghost,had and have a wonderful relationship of building more, Genesis 1:27,So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28,And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

satan cursed that good thing of God,and now he has them male and male.

Anytime that you feel God did not or does not do His job right,you become rebelious,in disagreement with God.

God is very very much into His reproduction plan, Proverbs 11:30,The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Ovedya
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[dpwozney]

John 12:31,Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

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[Smalcald]

Why cant Satan and demons repent and thus be forgiven and back with God?

For the same reason that other people going to hell don't repent, they don't want to and they don't think they are doing anything wrong, they enjoy evil and sin, why would they repent of it?

[HAZARD]

Originally, God gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Col. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before "Iniquity was found in him. Before Adam Lucifer was the ruler of the Earth.

"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15).

Lucifer convinced one thrid of God's angels to rebell with him and they rebelled against God and His universal rule, and invaded heaven to try and de-throne God Himself. (Ezek 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14).

Lucifer, now called Satan, and the spirit rebels caused man to fall, and they regained dominion of the earth through Adam's submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). They have been in control ever since and will be in control untill the second coming of Christ, who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium and make a New Heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth all righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5).

Isa 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" This is no friend of men?

The greatest work of Satan now among men it to counterfeit the doctrins and experiences of God as revealed in Scripture in order to decieve the saints.

Men are commanded to prove and to test all doctrins and experiences in the supernatural realm to see if they are of God or of Satan (1 Cor. 2:12-16; Phil 1:9-10; 1 Thess. 5:21-22; 1 John 4:1-6).

Satan is the deciever of all men (Rev. 12:9; 20:1-10; 2 Cor. 11:14). He is the LEADER fo all sinners and backsliders in the human race (1 John 3:8-10; 1 Tim. 5:15) and of all the SPIRIT REBELS (Eph. 6:10-18; Matt. 9:34). He is the cause of all sickness and desiese and physical maladies in the human race (Luke 13:16; Acts 10:38). He takes advantage of all adversities of men to further their rebellion and hold men captive ( 2 Cor. 2:11; 1 Tim. 1:20; 5:11-15). Satan enters into union against God (Luke 22:3; John 13: 2) and he steals the Word of God from people lest they should believe it (Matt. 13:19; Luke 8:12).

Satan sets snares for men to fall into sin (1 Tim. 2:26 and he makes war on believers (Eph. 6:10-18). He causes division and blinds men to the gospel (2 Cor. 4:4). He causes doubt and oppression ( 2 Cor. 4:4; Peter 1:4-9). He wants men to be always sick, sinful, helpless, unhappy, and poverty stricken untill they die and lose all hop of redemption.

Satan was the pinical of Gods creation and he fell through pride over his own beauty (Ezek. 28:11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6), and because he tried to EXALT HIMSELF above God (Isa. 14:12-14). INIQUITY was found in him (Ezek. 28:15). He is the enemy of both God and man through sin in trying to elevate and exault himself above God.

How long Lucifer lived in perfect harmony with the kingdom of God before he rebelled is not revealed, but it would have been for a very long period, for it would have taken a long time to work up such a rebellion as he did. He caused over one third of God's innumerable angels to rebel with him. God would have known about this as it was going on and would have held back for a long time giving Lucifer and those who rebelled and who were working up rebellion ample time to reflect upon what they were planning and repent. The angels who were not talked into rebelling would have notified God fo Lucifers plan.

Lucifer and his rebellious angels would have had a long time to repent and when they never after such a long time, they were charged and judged.

Some angels, because of the severity of their sins are now already bound and await their judgment;

"These angels are now bound in chains awaiting judgment because of their sin;

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 6-7).

2 Peter 2:4; For IF GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS who sinned, but cast them down to Hell, and deliviered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"

The angels who did not sin, as opposed to those who did sin, are still with God since He created them before the foundation of the world. What would we call those who did not sin and are still with God? Would we call them saved, as opposed to being cast into Hell and deliverd into chains of darkness, or would we call them, just lucky?

[HAZARD]

Originally, God gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Col. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before "Iniquity was found in him. Before Adam Lucifer was the ruler of the Earth.

"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15).

Lucifer convinced one thrid of God's angels to rebell with him and they rebelled against God and His universal rule, and invaded heaven to try and de-throne God Himself. (Ezek 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14).

Lucifer, now called Satan, and the spirit rebels caused man to fall, and they regained dominion of the earth through Adam's submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). They have been in control ever since and will be in control untill the second coming of Christ, who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium and make a New Heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth all righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5).

Isa 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" This is no friend of men?

The greatest work of Satan now among men it to counterfeit the doctrins and experiences of God as revealed in Scripture in order to decieve the saints.

Men are commanded to prove and to test all doctrins and experiences in the supernatural realm to see if they are of God or of Satan (1 Cor. 2:12-16; Phil 1:9-10; 1 Thess. 5:21-22; 1 John 4:1-6).

Satan is the deciever of all men (Rev. 12:9; 20:1-10; 2 Cor. 11:14). He is the LEADER fo all sinners and backsliders in the human race (1 John 3:8-10; 1 Tim. 5:15) and of all the SPIRIT REBELS (Eph. 6:10-18; Matt. 9:34). He is the cause of all sickness and desiese and physical maladies in the human race (Luke 13:16; Acts 10:38). He takes advantage of all adversities of men to further their rebellion and hold men captive ( 2 Cor. 2:11; 1 Tim. 1:20; 5:11-15). Satan enters into union against God (Luke 22:3; John 13: 2) and he steals the Word of God from people lest they should believe it (Matt. 13:19; Luke 8:12).

Satan sets snares for men to fall into sin (1 Tim. 2:26 and he makes war on believers (Eph. 6:10-18). He causes division and blinds men to the gospel (2 Cor. 4:4). He causes doubt and oppression ( 2 Cor. 4:4; Peter 1:4-9). He wants men to be always sick, sinful, helpless, unhappy, and poverty stricken untill they die and lose all hop of redemption.

Satan was the pinical of Gods creation and he fell through pride over his own beauty (Ezek. 28:11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6), and because he tried to EXALT HIMSELF above God (Isa. 14:12-14). INIQUITY was found in him (Ezek. 28:15). He is the enemy of both God and man through sin in trying to elevate and exault himself above God.

How long Lucifer lived in perfect harmony with the kingdom of God before he rebelled is not revealed, but it would have been for a very long period, for it would have taken a long time to work up such a rebellion as he did. He caused over one third of God's innumerable angels to rebel with him. God would have known about this as it was going on and would have held back for a long time giving Lucifer and those who rebelled and who were working up rebellion ample time to reflect upon what they were planning and repent. The angels who were not talked into rebelling would have notified God fo Lucifers plan.

Lucifer and his rebellious angels would have had a long time to repent and when they never after such a long time, they were charged and judged.

Some angels, because of the severity of their sins are now already bound and await their judgment;

"These angels are now bound in chains awaiting judgment because of their sin;

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 6-7).

2 Peter 2:4; For IF GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS who sinned, but cast them down to Hell, and deliviered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"

The angels who did not sin, as opposed to those who did sin, are still with God since He created them before the foundation of the world. What would we call those who did not sin and are still with God? Would we call them saved, as opposed to being cast into Hell and deliverd into chains of darkness, or would we call them, just lucky?

[ellarose]

Firstly, the angels have no intercessor for their sins. We have Christ who died on a cross for our sins and who's resurrection makes us righteous before God on the day of Judgement. The angels have no such intercessor.

Secondly, it is prophecied that the angels and Satan will suffer in the lake of sulfur for all of eternity, therefore as God can not be wrong, this is what will happen.

Your sister in Christ,

Ella rose

[Smalcald]

Without a doubt they committed that sin, they commit that sin every day as they blaspheme the entire Godhead, Father Son and indeed Holy Spirit. They told Eve that God was a liar, now how could that not be blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, and that was just the beginning.

This is a being that knew and understood who God is and chose to make WAR against God, that IS the definition of blaspheme!

[HAZARD]

Here is Lucifers sin. His sin was pride. For thou art hast said in thine heart, I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I WILL EXALT MY THRONE above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE like the most High."

God said to Lucifer, Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. (Ezekiel 28:15).

Lucifer wanted to knock God off His Throne and take over Gods Kingdom. He convinced one third of God's angels to join him in his quest.

In Isa. 14:12-14 we have statements which cannot possibly of an earthly King. The passage is universally refering to the fall of Satan. We can quote it and note the facts.

"How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which dist weaken the nations! For thou art hast said in thine heart, I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I WILL EXALT MY THRONE above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE like the most High," Now note the following facts this passage proves of Satan:

1. That his name is Lucifer.

2. That he was a son of the morning, and therefore, no earthly man.

3. That he fell from Heaven. This could never be spoken of a man. Satan is the only person in all Scripture who is spoken of as falling from Heaven (Luke 10:18).

4. That he was cut down to the ground in his fall.

5. That he weakened the nations on Earth.

6. That he was exalted in his heart.

7. That he invaded hHeaven where God rules.

8. That he was a KING, for he had a Throne and SUBJECTS over whom he ruled.

9. That he wanted to exalt his kingdom above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven itself to dethrone God.

10. That he wanted to be worshiped in the congregation of God (Ps. 72:2; 82:1; Isa. 6:1).

11. That he led a rebellion against God but was defeated.

12. That his kingdom was on Earth, or he never could have tried to ascend above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven. When a kingdom is located under the clouds it has to be on the Earth.

13. That the ground, clouds, stars, and Heaven were already created.

14. That it had to be before Adam, for this was not the position of Lucifer when he was in Adam's Eden. Adam had dominion at that time. Lucifer had no kingdom on the Earth at the time of Adam and he has not had one since in the sense of a visible personal rule on Earth. He has only ruled through others since Adam's day; so this must refer to a time before Adam.

15. That he was not in Heaven when he rebelled, else he could not have desired to ascend into Heaven. He was under the stars, or he could not have desired to be exalted above the stars. He was under the clouds, or he could not have desired to ascend above them.

16. That God's throne is located in the north part of the universe (Psalms 75:6-7). Thus, this passage proves the location of Satan's original kingdom and the time of his fall. It was located on Earth, and his fall was before Adam, for he was al;reday a fallen creature when he entered Adam' Eden.

In Coll. 1:15-18 we read of Christ creating thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers in Heaven and on Earth. They were located somewhere in the heavens and on the Earth. Lucifer was given a kingdom here on Earth, as proved by the passages cited above. His own subjects were earthly creatures of various kinds which were destroyed when the flood of Gen. 1:2 came upon the Earth. God created the Earth to be inhabited by earthly creatures (Isa. 45:18). They are called "nations" in the above passages. The demons who are now Satans emissaries could well be the spirits of the pre-Adamites. At any rate they are not part of the creation at the time of Adam. Thus Isaiah teaches the the Earth was inhabited before Adam and was ruled by Lucifer, whos' kingdom was overthrown when he rebelled.

There is so, so much more found in Scripture regarding this doctrin, many dozens of Scriptures support this. If this is false teaching, it amuses me that no one comes up with nothing more than Noah's flood, which occured much later, did not compleatly destroy the Earth, shake mountains, turn them upside down, turned off the stars and the sun so that there was no light. God had already created the Heavens, they were in existence as well as the Earth only their lights were withheld from shining on the Earth thus causing darkness Gen. 1:2. There was no darkness during Noah's flood? There were men and animals on the earth before Noah's flood, and Noah and his family and the animals survived the flood and were on the Eart after it?

That the Earth ONLY was (became) without form and void (Hebrew tohu vabobu, litterally wast and ruin or desolate and empty), as in Gen. 1:2. That there were mountains of Earth that were shaken and turned upside down by an earthquake so severe, which no doubt caused the remains of animals to be deposited in the very depths of the Earth beneath many layers of solid rock, such as are now been found. Noah's flood never buried animals hundreds of meters beneath solid rock.

Many other scriptures apart from those above can be presented to prove the doctrin of a pre-Adamite world.

To try and put this in a nutshell, God created the heavens first, then the Earth, all in the beginning or in the dateless past (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7). He caused the heavens and the Earth to be inhabited and gave Lucifer control of the Earth-kingdom, don't believe me, read, (Coll. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14).

Lucifer ruled the earth for God for an unknown period before he rebelled and invaded heaven to try and dethrone God. Not my idea, read (Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). He was defeated and his kingdom on Earth was destroyed by a flood and the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).

The Earth was turned upside down, a process which caused all the present formations of the Earth. The flood remained on the Earth for an unknown period of time, and then God in six days restored the Earth to a habitable state and made Adam and Eve and his creation to carry out the original plan of God concerning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25).

Lucifer, now called Satan, and the spirit rebels caused man to fall, and they regained dominion of the earth through Adam's submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). They have been in control ever since and will be in control untill the second coming of Christ, who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium and make a New Heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth all righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). Why does science show the earth to be many millions of years old and the Bible "(allegedly)" says it is only six thousand years old? So, as with everything missunderstood in Scripture men call what they do not understand a theory. Hence, the gap theory, or even a herecy. But there was a gap and its no theory. Scripture shows there was a creation "in the beginning" and then a re-creation.

If we take the time to carefully read all the Scriptures regarding this doctrin and not just skim over them retaining old knowledge in the mind, and the READ these below, which backs up what is said, and see for yourselves

You see, God spoke, and as soon as the materials were made, God created and formed with His hands the heavens, with all its light and darkness first, then the Earth, all in the beginning, or in the dateless past (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7). God created the heavens and the earth to be inhabited and He gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Col. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before he rebelled and invaded heaven to try and de-throne (Ezek 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14).

Naturally Lucifer was defeated, and his kingdom on the earth was totally destroyed by a flood and by the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1;2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6), hence the severe geological contortions of the earth's crust, vast deposits of bones in various places world wide, fossiles thousands or millions of years old etc. The earth was turned upside down in this process, ever wondered why the moon is poc marked by countless craters, and yet we never see anything plowing into it these days causing such destruction. What about the other dead planets in our immediate solar system? The flood God caused to cover the earth remained for an unknown period of time, and then God, in six days restored the earth to a habitable state and made Adam and his creation to carry out the original plan of God conserning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25).

Lucifer and his spirit rebels caused man to fall and by this regained dominion of the earth through Adams submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). Lucifer has been in control ever since and he will remain in control untill the second coming of Jesus Christ who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium. God will then finally make a New heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5).

This doctrin is too simple for most men to understand, so they reject it.

Now, 2 Peter 3:5-7 expresses this clearly in plain human language, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing (emerging) out of the water and in the water:

Whereby the world THAT THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, PERISHED:

But the heavens and the Earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

This is where people become confused and say the world "that then was," was the world before Noah's flood, but this cannot be because:

If the world that THAT THEN WAS" is that between Adam and the flood of Noah, then God created The heavens and the Earth WHICH ARE NOW" since the flood of Noah. Noah and his family lived prior to his flood and after it. The world "THAT THEN WAS PERISHED" and everything in it also perished. What change could Noah's flood make to the heavens? None, for floods on Earth can never cover the heavens. The earth, vegetation, the heavens, all remained the same after Noah's flood.

Peter, in (2 Peter 3:3-7) taught that scoffers were totally ignorant of the flood that destroyed the social system and the earth "that then was" (lucifers flood). These scoffers all knew of Noah's flood and still know today. This proves that the truth of the flood that destroyed the original creation was hidden from them, while they knew about Noah's flood.

What was it that the scoffers were ignorant of unless it was the destruction of the social system before Adam?

This is the doctrin of which men are still ignorant of, which they call "the gap theory." Peter said that the scoffers were willingly ignorant of this truth showing that it is a clear doctrin of Scripture if men would stop being ignorant of it. There are many Scriptures that make this doctrin clear; so "If any man wants to be ignorant, let him be ignorant," as Paul expressed in (1 Cor. 14:38).

Peter said these scoffers of the last days, the days we are in now, since Noah, would be ignorant of the fact that the heavens were of old; that the social system ruled by Lucifer on the old Earth perished by water; that the heavens and the Earth since the six days of restoration are kept in store to be purified again- the next time by fire; that the Lord is not slack concerning His promises of final restoration of the earth to its third perfect state; and that God was longsuffering to all men, not willing that any should perish, but all come to repentance.

[Guest Butero]

Why cant Satan and demons repent and thus be forgiven and back with God?

God never provided a plan of redemption for the fallen angels, so I don't know how they could be saved? Even so, I have always thought that since they know they are no match for the power of God, even if there is no promise of redemption for them, they would be better off to spend the rest of eternity seeking God's forgiveness instead of going about continuing to do evil. Continuing on their present course will lead to eternity in the lake of fire. Going away from that could lead to mercy. The people of Ninevah were never promised if they repented they would be spared, yet humbling themselves before God led to him showing them mercy. I don't know what would happen if Satan and the fallen angels repented, but there is no sign they are going to.

[Deepblue]

Why cant Satan and demons repent and thus be forgiven and back with God?

God never provided a plan of redemption for the fallen angels, so I don't know how they could be saved? Even so, I have always thought that since they know they are no match for the power of God, even if there is no promise of redemption for them, they would be better off to spend the rest of eternity seeking God's forgiveness instead of going about continuing to do evil. Continuing on their present course will lead to eternity in the lake of fire. Going away from that could lead to mercy. The people of Ninevah were never promised if they repented they would be spared, yet humbling themselves before God led to him showing them mercy. I don't know what would happen if Satan and the fallen angels repented, but there is no sign they are going to.

Revelation tells where the devil will spend eternity.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.