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BHG,

Didn't they stone the false prophets too?

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Anyone who stands up and prophesies something they KNOW isn't of God is a false prophet but you are leaving no room for the grace of God-you'll find in the old testament that sons in rebellion

to their parents were to be stoned.

Who were you addressing in your post BHG?


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I was addressing the post to the board in general.  Meaning, if you stand and speak something you know is false-then you are a false prophet.  If you really believe the Lord is giving you the Words to speak and the Words you are speaking agree with scripture but you are mistaken about hearing Gods voice then you do not need to be stoned.   :P   Haven't you ever been mistaken about something?


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I was addressing the post to the board in general.  Meaning, if you stand and speak something you know is false-then you are a false prophet.  If you really believe the Lord is giving you the Words to speak and the Words you are speaking agree with scripture but you are mistaken about hearing Gods voice then you do not need to be stoned.      Haven't you ever been mistaken about something?

About "something", absolutely! About prophecy, no. I am not a prophet.

Are there any Biblical examples to support the idea that REAL prophets are capable of mistaking God's prophetic message?

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Timothy,

  There are many examples in the Bible of Prophets that prophesied things that never came to pass.  But careful examination reveal that most are conditional prophecies or the lord simply changed his mind.

  Mike

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Can anybody explain to me what a person has to do/be in order to be a modern day prophet?  What are the conditions/ expectations of a prophet?  What is their measure?  

Thanks in advance,

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Timothy,

 There are many examples in the Bible of Prophets that prophesied things that never came to pass.  But careful examination reveal that most are conditional prophecies or the lord simply changed his mind.

 Mike

Your statement is correct, but those prophetic messages were not "mistakes", which ByHisGrace seems to suggest as acceptable.

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Hi,

The issues that both byHisGrace and BibleReader are the kinds of things I was thinking of to answer your response to me, Timothy.  Thanks you two, cause I was having a hard time figuring out how to iterate it.

Here they are in a nutshell:

1)A prophet can be wrong about hearing from God and/or speaking for God.  Is this right?  No, but it can happen and it does happen.  The only Biblical support I can think of is found in I Cor 15

29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
Notice how prophets judge the prophecies of other prophets.

2) Conditional prophecies and prophecies that have spiritual meanings (don't they all) may appear to have been wrong, but are not.  

Well, thems my thoughts.  

thanks,

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Agreed.

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Tarrier,

Let me try to answer your question regarding the qualifications of a prophet.  Num 12:6 If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.  So we learn from that scripture that a prophet must receive visions from God, and have inspired dreams.  Deut 18:21-22 tells us if a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and the thing follow note, he is a false prophet, but that if he speaks in the name of the Lord, and it follows, he is a prophet of God.  Amos 3:7 tells us that the Lord God will do nothing without revealing it first to his servants, the prophets.  

  Mike

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