Healing

[Floatingaxe]

Healing and deliverance is available!

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

[ColleenLovesMischief]

My pastor said that whoever is looking for the perfect church to join, as soon as he finds one and joins, it isn't perfect anymore! There isn't any perfect church, but if you find yourself a good one--there should be nothing to stop you from fully stepping into membership. It's a consummation...and it's good for you and good for the church.

Who said they were looking for the perfect church?

Also....what about those who have trouble when around a lot of people?

Agoraphobia? Is that a suggestion that the avoidance of people is a good reason to avoid church altogether? That is a deliverance issue, and a good church is going to lovingly provide it. There isn't an excuse to avoid what God has provided for us to do.

Nope side affect of being bi polar. There are just times I am not safe to be out. The more people I am around the worse I get with panic. Deliverence was tried regarding it many yrs ago. It is a true brain chemical problem that they cannot find a med to counter. Lucky me I get to live with it as best I can. I am very paranoid of others. I live most of my life home with my kids. Rarely I go out with my mom.

Try getting some more fruits in your diet, and especially the Acai berry. Helped my bi-polar mother.

Never heard of it...can you pm me with what it is and a link if possible?

[Floatingaxe]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

[Matthitjah]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

Grace to you FA,

Ge

[Floatingaxe]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

Grace to you FA,

Ge 32:31

And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he limped upon his thigh.

Not in regards to Colleens situation but in regards to your assertion that God wants us to walk in strength and health to be enabled to do His will. It appears that it is not always the case as in the example above and with Paul. God weakened these men so that He might be magnified in their lives.

Can you explain this contradiction in your thinking with situations in scripture for me?

Peace,

Dave

All I know that if it is God's will for people to be sick, then those who believe that had better think twice before seeking a cure or even taking an aspirin, for fear of thwarting the will of God. That would be a terrible sin. There is nothing in the word of God that teaches us that sickness is the will of God for us.

It is wrong teaching that Paul suffered illness--which subverts faith for the healing that we all have already in the atonement. and only need to appropriate it.

2 Corinthians 12:5-10

5 That experience is worth boasting about, but I’m not going to do it. I will boast only about my weaknesses. 6 If I wanted to boast, I would be no fool in doing so, because I would be telling the truth. But I won’t do it, because I don’t want anyone to give me credit beyond what they can see in my life or hear in my message, 7 even though I have received such wonderful revelations from God. So to keep me from becoming proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud.

8 Three different times I begged the Lord to take it away. 9 Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me. 10 That’s why I take pleasure in my weaknesses, and in the insults, hardships, persecutions, and troubles that I suffer for Christ. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

People teach that God gave Paul the "thorn" and not Satan, and therefore God's will that Paul be sick--and healing therefore is NOT part of the atonement. Wrong teaching.

Grammatically it is clear the thorn is the messenger of Satan--not from God. He didn't give it. The thorn was not God humbling Paul. God exalts us, and would exalt Paul among the people. That is His doing. There is a Godly exaltation. The thorn to keep him from being exalted above measure was from a demonic source--not God. Satan didn't want Paul to have acclaim. He assigned a demonic messenger to follow him and stir up persecution against him. He was beaten, stoned and imprisoned...it was to prevent him from being exalted by men, and perhaps follow Christ.

v8-9: God says His power is sufficient--He says that Paul can rebuke it, under his authority in Christ. Paul, rather, embraced it--he gloried in it! The other interpretation is that God said no, that he was going to give him the supernatural ability to sustain the difficulties he faced. "Infirmity" doesn't necessarily mean sickness--it means any lack or inadequacy.

ch 11:23-30...Paul lists his infirmities and none are illnesses, but specific hardships---the messenger of Satan to buffet him.

People are in error to think that if God didn't heal Paul of this unproven illness, then it gives men the desire to believe that it is God's will for them to be sick and not be healed by God. Satan wins by subverting one's faith in that case! We can't allow him to win like that!

Paul never says he was sick. In verse 7 he says this messenger of Satan came because of the abundance of his revelations! Now, unless any of us have been used by God to write most of the new Testament and healed and raised as many people from the dead as Paul, and heard directly from God the way he had, then we have no right to hide behind his thorn in the flesh and say that we also have a thorn in our flesh. To be truthful, we would have to have had the abundance of revelation that Paul had! We would be disqualified summarily! Plus the thorn was not a sickness.

Three other OT references to a thorn in the flesh (which Paul's hearers would understand completely) are all references to the persecution of people. Hence the thorn in Paul was the horrible, unrelenting persecution he had to endure everywhere he traveled.

[Floatingaxe]

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

so you are saying that she has this condition only because she lacks the faith to be healed?

You cannot accuse me of that old, tired sting. I never even used the word "faith".

We are all advancing in our faith, and yes, people lack belief and many (including myself) remain unknowledgeable about all the truth of the healing we have been given, and how to appropriate it.

It is not disparaging to say that one may still need more faith. No one has it all--we are always needing to come up higher in our faith walk. It is part of the renewing of our mind "routine" we are constantly doing as believers. Our born again spirits are whole and holy, and have all that God has. It is our mind that must discover the truth and receive it and appropriate it and once that is done by faith and belief, fully embraced, then the body will appropriate its truth and manifest that wholeness. The body has no connection with our treasure-laden perfect spirits, but our minds do.

[Floatingaxe]

I think we need a new thread. folks!

[Matthitjah]

Healing and deliverance is available!

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!!

I may not know your circumstances, dear, but I know that it is for us to walk in the strength of God and in the health He desires for us in order to do His will...and just plain because He's our Daddy and He loves us so much. No offense intended in that, also! Your equipped born-again spirit already has all you need, and all you need do is release it to the situation. All things in Christ Jesus already exist. Acknowledging what God has already done begins to manifest victory. We are all in the process of renewing our minds to grasp these things.

Philemon 1:6

And I am praying that you will put into action the generosity that comes from your faith as you understand and experience all the good things we have in Christ.

Grace to you FA,

Ge 32:31

And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he limped upon his thigh.

Not in regards to Colleens situation but in regards to your assertion that God wants us to walk in strength and health to be enabled to do His will. It appears that it is not always the case as in the example above and with Paul. God weakened these men so that He might be magnified in their lives.

Can you explain this contradiction in your thinking with situations in scripture for me?

Peace,

Dave

All I know that if it is God's will for people to be sick, the those who believe that had better think twice before seeking a cure or even taking an aspirin, for fear of thwarting the will of God. That would be a terrible sin. There is nothing in teh word of God that tteaches us that sickness is the will of God for us.

It is wrong teaching that Paul suffered illness--which subverts faith for the healing that we all have already in the atonement. and only need to appropriate it.

2 Corinthians 12:5-10

5 That experience is worth boasting about, but I

[Floatingaxe]

We already have our healing. we need to receive it. God is no respecter of persons.