Question for fellow believers

[browneyedgirl2]

Hello all, I don't know this for certain, as my dear precious mother wouldn't discuss it, but I believe that I am the results of a rape..... I was born shortly after my mother's 18 birthday... I know my biological father's name, but that's all that I know about him.... My mother married the man that I call daddy when I was about 4, and he is all I've ever known... Oh believe me, there has been ALOT of resentment toward me all my life... My mother is dead now, and daddy and I were talking shortly after she passed away... He too thought that she was raped...

Also, on the issue of homosexuality, I think it's wrong, but.... I love someone with all my heart that is rumored to be gay... He is the most precious man, I've ever known, and I confronted him about this... He strongly denied it, but.. other things have come up that make me wonder.... I've prayed and prayed and prayed about this and GOD has never shown me that he was gay... I really don't know what to think, and I don't know WHY these thoughts keep coming to me... I just know that I love him with all my heart, and our spirits are as one... That's the only way that I know to describe it... He says he is a Christian, and I've never seen anything to make me believe different... In his profession he does a lot of travelling, and the person he travels with is also said to be gay... Now this person lives with another man... What would you think and do ??? ?

[Guest shiloh357]

Medical necessities have been greatly reduced in recent years due to medical advancements, making many of the "medical" jsuticifications for abortion obsolete. It is even possible for doctors to perform surgery on a baby while still in the womb.

The thing is that Roe v. Wade is all about convenience abortions and thus the "medical necessity" issue doesn't remove the black and white moral framework of the pro life position.

Medical necessity is really a nonissue because it is a given.

Not with some Catholics. Some Catholics believe that nature should take it's course in these situations. In their case this is an issue, as it was with my brother in law.

It is the irony of an immoral position being taken in the name of a moral stand. Kind of like the folks who will let their sick children die before they will take them to a doctor or seek any medical care all in the name of letting "God's will" be done.

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[Smalcald]

If I put this in the wrong place I apologize. But I do have a question for all the fellow believers' in Christ out there.

What I don't understand is how someone can call themselves a Christian and say they follow the Bible, believe in it and yet still support Pro-choice and homosexuality?? I do understand that we are supposed to love others' as Christ would, but loving them and supporting and backing up choices that are obviously not Biblical are two different things to me??

Thank you all who can help me out here!

I never really responded to the original question.

I am not sure how people hold contradictory beliefs. But I think we should be consistent as Christians and not simply use the bible for what we are already inclined to oppose and ignore scripture for things we want to do.

Most Christians do not have to wrestle with homosexual perversions, however many Christians are divorced because they committed adultery and Christ said point blank, do not do this either divorce or commit adultery. So I would imagine that people who ignore biblical teachings on homosexual pervasions do it the same way that divorced Christians who cheated on their spouse ignore teachings on divorce and adultery. I mean look at the number of preachers on t.v. who are divorced because they committed adultery, they seem to have no problem ignoring this.

Both are wrong of course we cannot ignore scripture, but it is amazing how we and I include myself in that big time, ignore scripture when it suites us and push scripture when it is easy and is about someone else.

[Mom2Many]

If I put this in the wrong place I apologize. But I do have a question for all the fellow believers' in Christ out there.

What I don't understand is how someone can call themselves a Christian and say they follow the Bible, believe in it and yet still support Pro-choice and homosexuality?? I do understand that we are supposed to love others' as Christ would, but loving them and supporting and backing up choices that are obviously not Biblical are two different things to me??

Thank you all who can help me out here!

I never really responded to the original question.

I am not sure how people hold contradictory beliefs. But I think we should be consistent as Christians and not simply use the bible for what we are already inclined to oppose and ignore scripture for things we want to do.

Most Christians do not have to wrestle with homosexual perversions, however many Christians are divorced because they committed adultery and Christ said point blank, do not do this either divorce or commit adultery. So I would imagine that people who ignore biblical teachings on homosexual pervasions do it the same way that divorced Christians who cheated on their spouse ignore teachings on divorce and adultery. I mean look at the number of preachers on t.v. who are divorced because they committed adultery, they seem to have no problem ignoring this.

Both are wrong of course we cannot ignore scripture, but it is amazing how we and I include myself in that big time, ignore scripture when it suites us and push scripture when it is easy and is about someone else.

Thank you very much. Thinking along those lines clears up alot for me.

Thanks Again! God Bless!

[Massorite]

If I put this in the wrong place I apologize. But I do have a question for all the fellow believers' in Christ out there.

What I don't understand is how someone can call themselves a Christian and say they follow the Bible, believe in it and yet still support Pro-choice and homosexuality?? I do understand that we are supposed to love others' as Christ would, but loving them and supporting and backing up choices that are obviously not Biblical are two different things to me??

Thank you all who can help me out here!

The answer is called "Deception". Those who believe they are a Christian and also believe in murder are deceived into believing that way. They certainly don,t realize that if their mother believed in pro-choice they might not be here to be pro-choice.

[browneyedgirl2]

you don't mention your or your husband's ages, but I would think that needs to be greatly considered... A baby born late in life, after the age of 40, is most usually going to have some problems... Not always, but most of the tme..I think this should be a big thing to consider, before any of the other issues... I'm single, and way past the age of having children, but at the same time, I couldn't have children, but the desire to, has NEVER left me... Everytime that I hold a little one in my arms, there is something deep inside of me that grieves....I'll never know that, but you have known it 3 times.... Count your wonderful blessings and be content.... I'm not condeming your desire for another child, just be at peace with what you have.....

Edited October 18, 2008 by browneyedgirl2

[Massorite]

you don't mention your or your husband's ages, but I would think that needs to be greatly considered... A baby born late in life, after the age of 40, is most usually going to have some problems... Not always, but most of the tme..I think this should be a big thing to consider, before any of the other issues... I'm single, and way past the age of having children, but at the same time, I couldn't have children, but the desire to, has NEVER left me... Every time that I hold a little one in my arms, there is something deep inside of me that grieves....I'll never know that, but you have known it 3 times.... Count your wonderful blessings and be content.... I'm not condemning your desire for another child, just be at peace with what you have.....

The answer is real simple. Not one single baby is ever conceived without the knowledge and blessing from God. So even if the baby has some sort of problem. Do you think that God would want you to kill what He has already ordained as good. God never intended for us to have birth defects. We fell from Grace and now we must live with our fall. Either way no baby is conceived without the permission of God because only He can breath the breath of Life into a new born.

From a Godly stand point there is no justification for killing babies in the womb or other wise.

[Smalcald]

you don't mention your or your husband's ages, but I would think that needs to be greatly considered... A baby born late in life, after the age of 40, is most usually going to have some problems... Not always, but most of the tme..I think this should be a big thing to consider, before any of the other issues... I'm single, and way past the age of having children, but at the same time, I couldn't have children, but the desire to, has NEVER left me... Everytime that I hold a little one in my arms, there is something deep inside of me that grieves....I'll never know that, but you have known it 3 times.... Count your wonderful blessings and be content.... I'm not condeming your desire for another child, just be at peace with what you have.....

All women are mothers regardless of if they have actually had a physical child or not. The babies you have held, the children you have impacted are all part of your motherhood.

Peace.

[browneyedgirl2]

I agree, I would never have an abortion, not even if my life was in danger.... I think it's murder, and I couldn't do it.... I recently read where Obama is for partial birth abortion---where the doctor goes into the womb and grabs the baby by it's leg, and pulls it out and decapitates it.... before he pulls the head out.... NOW if that isn't murder, what is???? I'm not yelling, just using bold for emphasis....I couldn't read the email any further... It made me sick... I can't imagine any woman doing this, but they DO!!!!