144,000

[kross]

I read in another thread that the 144,000 were Christians. Why would anyone come to that conclusion?

The scripture teaches they are 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no indication, that I recall, that would label them Christians.

Help me obi-wan Kanobi.

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I read in another thread that the 144,000 were Christians. Why would anyone come to that conclusion?

The scripture teaches they are 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no indication, that I recall, that would label them Christians.

Help me obi-wan Kanobi.

kross -

I am not obi-wan, but ...

I too would like to know who these 144,000 are,

but whether physical or spiritual descendants of Abraham,

*why* are the twelve tribes in Rev different from the original twelve tribes ?

And does this help us determine if they are physical or spiritual descendants ... ?

P.S. -

How come every time I sign my name, it is replaced with a smiley face ... ?

[kross]

I read in another thread that the 144,000 were Christians. Why would anyone come to that conclusion?

The scripture teaches they are 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no indication, that I recall, that would label them Christians.

Help me obi-wan Kanobi.

kross -

I am not obi-wan, but ...

I too would like to know who these 144,000 are,

but whether physical or spiritual descendants of Abraham,

*why* are the twelve tribes in Rev different from the original twelve tribes ?

And does this help us determine if they are physical or spiritual descendants ... ?

P.S. -

How come every time I sign my name, it is replaced with a smiley face ... ?

I think your name is code for "really strange face"

I am a believer that the 144,000 are physical, members of the tribe of Israel who will be kept pure by GOD.

[:blink:]

It is replaced with the "blink" face. The same reason that typing a-n-g-e-l without the hyphens will result in an angel emot. The board software thinks you want a blinking emot when you sign your name.

''

[:blink:]

I read in another thread that the 144,000 were Christians. Why would anyone come to that conclusion?

The scripture teaches they are 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no indication, that I recall, that would label them Christians.

Help me obi-wan Kanobi.

kross -

I am not obi-wan, but ...

I too would like to know who these 144,000 are,

but whether physical or spiritual descendants of Abraham,

*why* are the twelve tribes in Rev different from the original twelve tribes ?

And does this help us determine if they are physical or spiritual descendants ... ?

P.S. -

How come every time I sign my name, it is replaced with a smiley face ... ?

I think your name is code for "really strange face"

I am a believer that the 144,000 are physical, members of the tribe of Israel who will be kept pure by GOD.

I lean that way too, but not becuase I think the Church is already gone.

Any thoughts on my question about the 12 tribes being different from the 12 sons of Abraham?

''

[:blink:]

It is replaced with the "blink" face. The same reason that typing a-n-g-e-l without the hyphens will result in an angel emot. The board software thinks you want a blinking emot when you sign your name.

''

blink

Edit: OK, that isn't it. I'm stumped now.

Edited again: No I'm not, because you have been writing it without the '' on either end, simply typing it just like your user name. I'm a bonehead.

Ha !!

Yes, you figured it out.

So I tried it with the quotes.

thanx

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[godrulz]

The Jehovah's Witness cult wrongly says that the 144,000 are Christians who are 'born again' with a heavenly hope. Their great crowd is the average JW who will live on Paradise earth forever. The Bible teaches that Church Age Christians will be raptured and have a heavenly hope. It is the Tribulation Saints who do not die who will go into the millennium to reign on earth.

The specific mention of tribes does show that they were Jewish believers who followed Christ during the future Tribulation before the Second Coming.

[AnnaMoodley]

Edited December 3, 2008 by AnnaMoodley

[kross]

I read in another thread that the 144,000 were Christians. Why would anyone come to that conclusion?

The scripture teaches they are 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no indication, that I recall, that would label them Christians.

Help me obi-wan Kanobi.

kross -

I am not obi-wan, but ...

I too would like to know who these 144,000 are,

but whether physical or spiritual descendants of Abraham,

*why* are the twelve tribes in Rev different from the original twelve tribes ?

And does this help us determine if they are physical or spiritual descendants ... ?

P.S. -

How come every time I sign my name, it is replaced with a smiley face ... ?

I think your name is code for "really strange face"

I am a believer that the 144,000 are physical, members of the tribe of Israel who will be kept pure by GOD.

I lean that way too, but not becuase I think the Church is already gone.

Any thoughts on my question about the 12 tribes being different from the 12 sons of Abraham?

''

No, I do not think there is any difference between this reference to the twelve tribes and the old testament references. The twelve tribes being the twelve sons.

[nebula]

The twelve tribes being the twelve sones.

What are "sones"?

Was that supposed to be "sons" or "stones" or something else?