The problem with Prosperity teaching today....

[Guest HIS girl]

Are you saying my thinking is out whack?

I am led by the Holy Spirit Ovedya.

Sorry.

Did I ever use the words "Your thinking is out of whack"?

Do you think my reading of these verses are incorrect?

I didn't write that. I wrote that your emphasis was not correct. One could read your post and determine that its intent was to interpret a different meaning than the verse actually conveys.

Hmmm....

Really.....?

That's how I read it anyway.

Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to respond.

Well I'm so blessed by your presence.....Oh Ovedya....

[Ovedya]

Well I'm so blessed by your presence.....Oh Ovedya....

Wow.

[Guest HIS girl]

Well I'm so blessed by your presence.....Oh Ovedya....

Wow.

Joking!!!

[stacey c]

His girl, ya can't say I didn't warn you, the worms are squirming all over the place now!

[RigMedic]

Sorry RigMedic, I don't know how to copy the one line I wanted to respond to in your post. But your last statement that prosperity teaching does not teach about repentence. Wher did this idea come from or who?

I was under the teaching of a very annointed man of God who taught alot about prosperity and faith, and I assure you God is the the center, the all in all of this teaching. How can you have any kind of faith or prosperity of anykind in this life with out a firm commitment and dedicated life to our Lord and Savior?

God bless you, stacey c

Im not sure I quite understand what exactly your asking, however this is the jist of what I am trying to say. Any gospel preached that does not include someones need for repentance is a false gospel. Someone cant just say one side of it and leave off the other.

I feel that to not preach repentance turns someone to God for the wrong reason, and can also teach someone to love the things of the world. After all we are warned not to be friends of the world.

[Ovedya]

His girl, ya can't say I didn't warn you, the worms are squirming all over the place now!

Who's a worm?

[stacey c]

Sorry RigMedic, I don't know how to copy the one line I wanted to respond to in your post. But your last statement that prosperity teaching does not teach about repentence. Wher did this idea come from or who?

I was under the teaching of a very annointed man of God who taught alot about prosperity and faith, and I assure you God is the the center, the all in all of this teaching. How can you have any kind of faith or prosperity of anykind in this life with out a firm commitment and dedicated life to our Lord and Savior?

God bless you, stacey c

Im not sure I quite understand what exactly your asking, however this is the jist of what I am trying to say. Any gospel preached that does not include someones need for repentance is a false gospel. Someone cant just say one side of it and leave off the other.

I feel that to not preach repentance turns someone to God for the wrong reason, and can also teach someone to love the things of the world. After all we are warned not to be friends of the world.

I understand what your saying and I'm in total agreement with you, but I do believe the blessings of God come along with a life that is totally committed to Him and faith in His Word. I was just wondering where the idea that prosperity teaching doesn't teach about repentence came from. I personally had never heard anyone teach that before, or omit the need for salvation.

[stacey c]

His girl, ya can't say I didn't warn you, the worms are squirming all over the place now!

Who's a worm?

Sorry Ovedya, no one, I was referring to "the can of worms" I warned about with my first post. You are a blessed brother, by no means a worm.

Love your sister in Christ stacey c

[RigMedic]

Sorry RigMedic, I don't know how to copy the one line I wanted to respond to in your post. But your last statement that prosperity teaching does not teach about repentence. Wher did this idea come from or who?

I was under the teaching of a very annointed man of God who taught alot about prosperity and faith, and I assure you God is the the center, the all in all of this teaching. How can you have any kind of faith or prosperity of anykind in this life with out a firm commitment and dedicated life to our Lord and Savior?

God bless you, stacey c

Im not sure I quite understand what exactly your asking, however this is the jist of what I am trying to say. Any gospel preached that does not include someones need for repentance is a false gospel. Someone cant just say one side of it and leave off the other.

I feel that to not preach repentance turns someone to God for the wrong reason, and can also teach someone to love the things of the world. After all we are warned not to be friends of the world.

I understand what your saying and I'm in total agreement with you, but I do believe the blessings of God come along with a life that is totally committed to Him and faith in His Word. I was just wondering where the idea that prosperity teaching doesn't teach about repentence came from. I personally had never heard anyone teach that before, or omit the need for salvation.

I agree with you as well that the blessings of God come along with a life that is totally committed to Him. I'm not sure if we are allowed to name names, so I will just say that my idea of a prosperity gospel is one that teaches no repentance. I get this from certain televangelists we see on tv. I admit however that I have not personally investigated each one. There is one however which I have, and what he will do is call for people to repent, in the last 5 minutes of his service. My thinking is this, why on earth would any one have a godly sorrow for repentance if for the whole sermon, they were told about how much God wants good things for them. They dont have the full message. It would seem someone one would experimentally repent not because they are sorry for sinning against God, but because they want all those good things.

Maybe I have my terminology wrong, but what I am trying to say, is whatever kind of preaching that is called, is wrong.

[Botz]

Hmmm....I wonder if Lazarus outside the rich mans house was into prosperity teaching...and yet somehow he managed to lay treasure up for himself in eternity!

I am not talking about material prosperity only Botz...

God has given me everything I need materially and you know what? I'm not rich and most of what I have is NOT new.

But I am in want for nothing materialistically.

Thats good His girl, and I'm glad you have been blessed in many ways, through good and hard times.

I think as stacey c pointed out...mention the word 'prosperity' and for many people it is a red rag to a bull, and generally with good cause because of the unbiblical slant that many preachers/teachers etc have promulgated, especially in the guise of reaping and sowing into the kingdom...but we aren't going down that route, so I will quietly cease....but if we do go down that route, I will clamber back on the cart.

In Messiah. Botz