Suffering - a necessity to our Walk?

February 4, 2009

Can we (all human beings) get close to God without suffering and hardship in our lives?

I don't mean little "annoynaces" but major turmoil that rocks our foundations?

Would we still seek God and know what love is without crises existing?

Is this part of freewill and the right to excercise it?

Is suffering a puzzle piece to God's Love - remembering our Salvation came through Christ's suffering-

Some questions I have.....

Thanks.

February 4, 2009

GREAT QUESTION!!!!
if you all have read my prayer requests, then u know the upheaval happening in my life at the moment. and i still have to stay strong and keep real close to God.

ieven when i was homeless before, i knew God was right there with me. believe me He watched over me that time in a major way-otherwise i wouldnt be here now.

as far as if it is a necessity? i have no idea, but maybe some-like me have to have a hammer hit them before we learn whatever it is that God intended us to learn.

i can actually sit here today and be very thankful for all that has happened to me in my life because -if i hadnt gone thru all i have- would i still be the person i am today? or would i have chose a different path altogether?

well those are my thoughts anyway.

lv yr sis in christ

manie

God Bless you Manie, for all the Wonderful things He has done for you!!

I know this subject is difficult but it's a very valid subject..

We ALL suffer - at some point in our lives....

dcampsart · February 4, 2009

GREAT QUESTION!!!!
if you all have read my prayer requests, then u know the upheaval happening in my life at the moment. and i still have to stay strong and keep real close to God.

ieven when i was homeless before, i knew God was right there with me. believe me He watched over me that time in a major way-otherwise i wouldnt be here now.

as far as if it is a necessity? i have no idea, but maybe some-like me have to have a hammer hit them before we learn whatever it is that God intended us to learn.

i can actually sit here today and be very thankful for all that has happened to me in my life because -if i hadnt gone thru all i have- would i still be the person i am today? or would i have chose a different path altogether?

well those are my thoughts anyway.

lv yr sis in christ

manie

God Bless you Manie, for all the Wonderful things He has done for you!!

I know this subject is difficult but it's a very valid subject..

We ALL suffer - at some point in our lives....

I've come to see that suffering, to some degree or another, is absolutely essential for my journey with God. I wish it didn't have to be so painful or frightening at times but I can see how it definitely works out for the good if I simply hang in there and just... wait!

sheya joie · February 4, 2009

For your consideration - and yes, that's 'the path through the valley' from my signature.

Believer1997 · February 4, 2009

I think that only through suffering does your devotion to God grow and strengthen. Suffering also makes us emphathetic to others. If life was a cake walk, I doubt that anyone would spend much time in meditation and prayer with the Father. You appreciate His gifts much more if you have suffered to receive them - like healing. Blessings.

Your Sister In Christ

Believer1997

mizzdy · February 4, 2009

I know for a fact if I didn't go through the things I have I may never have heeded God's voice and repented and given my life to Him. As someone said sometimes God has to use a hammer to get some of us to listen! Even tho I don't believe God caused me to be sick He sure uses all things for His own glory. I am and will always be forever thankful for what I have gone through.

February 4, 2009

So would you say suffering is a result of sin or would it STILL exist even if the Fall hadn't of occured?

mizzdy · February 4, 2009

So would you say suffering is a result of sin or would it STILL exist even if the Fall hadn't of occured?

If the fall had not occured none of this would be happening since it was the fall that brought sin and suffering into the world. If the fall wouldn't have happened we all just might be in Eden today. We now need a savior and before they walked with God, before no sin was found in them now we are all guilty of sin. I tell ya when I get a chance to talk to Eve I am going to ask her what the heck was she thinking!

Sashel Trace · February 4, 2009

Think of it like this. A child may be told not to touch a stove because it will hurt, but until the child does so, they will not understand at a truly deep level what it means to be burned. When the burn is gone and the hurt passes, the child becomes wiser in their decisions. They will not touch the stove again when its one because it hurts, and that is not a good thing. The book of Job has something to say on this.

Job 28:28

He said to human beings,

'Have respect for me. That will prove you are wise.

Avoid evil. That will show you have understanding.'

February 5, 2009

Ok - here's another question -

If sin had not entered the World but we still had freewill at our disposal - would we willingly seek God's love without having experienced some form of suffering?