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Thank you. What are the other ancient texts and sources? Thanks, again. 8 again. I love that number. :-)

Could you explain more of this to me? Thank you.

Yes--of course you are right. My mistake. I should have recalled this. I was thinking of Jesus function as savior and Head of the Church. Brother and also Husband.

I am not sure that is a distinction with a difference, but I don't wish to debate it.

I believe that God elects individuals for a variety of purposes and has done so since Abraham. Before Abraham, But Abraham was the start of establishing a people that would put feet on a piece of land and hold it for God...thus He becomes the God of heaven and earth. Among many other things, the sons of God in the Church age, perform the same function spiritually. When God reigns in our hearts...the Kingdom extends from heaven to earth. This is important to our Father. Me thinks.

Psa. 71:3 aBe to me a rock of bhabitation to which I may continually come; You have given ccommandment to save me, For You are dmy 1rock and my fortress.

2Sam. 22:2 He said, “The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; 3 My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.

In the beginning God

Logic is a tool of the mind God gave us and Jesus Christ the Logos is the 'rational reason' for all things. God is perfectly logical...this is true. For us it is the same as any other faculty that has limitations when brought to bear on the things of God. If the Lord is trying to teach us something that touches our own self-confidence or natural strength in order to make us 'weak' so that He may be 'strong' in and through us-- that thing needs to be let go. For some folks logic and innate organic intelligence may be such a thing at one time or another. At such times we might cry out as Abraham did in such circumstances, Gen. 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “Oh that Ishmael might live before You!”

Haha....I am quite sure I know what entropy is. Your assumption regarding sustenance in the garden doesn’t hold water. Sorry. Everything goes from organization to disorganization to simplify. The Lord holds all things together in the current corrupt universe, but he has another fresh new one ready to go, where that corruption will be replaced by an ever sustaining perfectly balanced Life infused construct. Where He is all in All...a perfect unadulterated reality of Himself.

It may sound strange to folks, but it’s not so much the scriptures that convince me...but the Lord I have come to know. And a bigger picture that is between the lines of the words.

I agree in part. I do not agree that sonship can be annulled. It simply doesn’t fit the Plan as I understand it. Also...I think there is more than what many of us have been taught regarding Gods Grace.

I am not defending such things. That doesn’t fit into my understanding of reality. Its seems an irrelevant fiction that’s just doesn’t compute.

It grieves me to read this FF. Truly, it does. It feels the same as the mourning I experience when considering the degradation all around us.

We don’t often think about such things. We just live it, but I suspect all sons can relate. After all...we are family. Just typing that last sentence makes my soul jump.

I have learned to think of that 'fear of the Lord' admonition to mean more along the lines of being in awe of Him. Its a difficult feeling or sense to describe--I reckon. But I have been 'afraid of consequences' once or twice. :-)

Entropy is not your friend. I believe it entered the Creation's dynamic at the fall. Fellas--do some research on how the "increase in the rate" of mutation in the human genome is increasing in each generation. We are not what we once were. Note that bit--increase in the rate. Most all mutations are deleterious. Entropy is the key to all of this. First life is another very interesting study!

Yes--and this is fundamental to the dangers of the 'religion of climate change'. If you were unaware of such a glaring reality, you might want to revisit the issue altogether. You do realize that a slight warming is actually good for mankind? Such an example is recorded in European history. Having said that, I remain unconvinced of any balanced global warming. Weather changes--yes, but man isn't causing it. Time will tell, but I am convinced that this is a tool being used by globalists who have coopted the gullible and easily manipulated masses who need a cause to validate their own existence. The scientific community has always been 'moved' by forces extant throughout the years. They are frail and vulnerable humans just like any other body.

Don't underestimate fanatics. The Middle East is a different animal, IMO. Tactical nukes isn't necessarily MAD. Just a real mess.

These are all good points. I was thinking about the nuclear threat potential.

We have no choice but to wait and see what happens, but I suspect, if A new base is built closer to Israel--Israel will make preemptive strikes. This is certainly piling on stress to a stressful situation. It doesn't make sense at the face of it. This is why I am wondering if it's a strategy between Trump and Israel...to knock out Iran.

I learn stuff through the feasts, the tabernacle design and the book of psalms. ”all scripture is profitable......” The early disciples taught Christ that way.

I am not sure what to think about this. on the one hand I applaud bring troops home. On the other hand there were just Bout 50 personnel there. This appears to be more of a giving Turkey permission and if the result is increased threat to Israel, that could mean starting the war. Could that be the plan? Pushing the inevitable conflict to a sooner date?

I am impressed by the effort all of you folks have put into this stuff. This isn't something that the Lord ever has led me to search out much beyond the reading and what you run into as a matter of course through the years. After reading the thread---the impression I am left with is that none of you know for sure. I have wondered over the years a time or three why the Lord hadn't opened my eyes to understand the book of Revelation. I reckon He leaves that for other members of the Body. I actually remember a time where I thought the Lord was telling me to leave it alone. Go figure.

Oh boy! I have no skin in this game my friend. I have stated my views. That is enough. I attempted some levity and am sorry if it offended you. For the record--I believe in climate. I see it every day. I believe in weather as well. I see it every day. I also admit that we 'may be' in a warming trend. What I don't believe is the doom and gloom related to these things. As I have said--lets talk in 10 years and we will most surely know then.