Humans may be primed to believe in creation

[MorningGlory]

Being a scientist, it is my honor and privilege to guide you in research beyond what you already understand.

What branch of science is your bailiwick, Xaxyx?

[nebula]

Well, now that the thread has gone off track from the OP . . .

The Big Bang Theory is a theory regarding the formation of the universe itself. In the beginning -- as it were -- a huge explosion occurred; particles flew in all directions; some gathered to form stars and black holes; these all eventually coalesced into galaxies. Some bits were too small to be stars and became planets, trapped in the gravity wells of stars. Billions of years later, the surface of the Earth cooled, water condensed to form oceans. That sort of thing.

If matter can be neither created nor destroyed, where did all this matter come from? The pre-Big bang is supposed to have been subatomic in size.

[Sir Gareth]

I must agree with Nebula here, in scientific terms matter cannot be created or destroyed, simply changed from one form to another.

So, if we say the big bang theory is correct in a purely scientific sense (not assuming the big bang happened when God said 'light') we must ask where that atom came from, and then that atom and so on and so on.

It is much simpler for me to believe that an all-powerful creator designed the universe.

As for beetles, God could create six thousand types of beetles in the time it takes us to tie our shoes (actually infinatly less time)

[Guest]

Now, given all that: in my opinion, as it happens, I feel in fact that evolution is the "simpler" explanation for life, the universe, and everything. I mean, really: eight thousand species of beetles? It'd have taken more than six days just to name them all...

Really?

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Whale Tales

"A common example of divergent evolution is the vertebrate limb. Whale flippers, frog forelimbs, and your own arms most likely evolved from the front flippers of an ancient jawless fish." http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/diff...-evolution.html

Key Word - Likely

Because "Most Likely"

Is Measurable (In Peer Reviewed Paper)

Is Observable (In The Dreams Of The Desperate)

Is Repeatable (In The Lecture Halls Of Self Proclaimed Wise Guys)

And Although Most Folk World Wide (Kids Too) Know Better, This Evolutionary Fable Must By Court Decree Be Taught to Little Children As Scientific Fact

Truth

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

Genesis 1:31

Key Word - God

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,"

"And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."

"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:"

"Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:"

"But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2 Peter 3:3-7

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You Think Maybe You Believe Not Because You Know Not The Power Of God?

"When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;" Psalms 8:3

Nor Perceive The True Size Of Puny Little Mankind?

"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?" Psalms 8:4

Nor Noticed Just How Ugly Is Our Pride?

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD."

"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

And Missed The Truth About Sin?

"But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." Proverbs 8:36

And God's Redeemption?

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

And The Wrath?

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36

To Come?

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Perhaps You Could Take Another Look At The Bible

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18

Thinking "Most Likely" God Tells The Truth

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." James 1:17

And Even If There Are Doubts

"And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief." Mark 9:24

Perhaps You Will Believe

"But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." 1 Corinthians 2:10

Perhaps Not

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:"

"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Corinthians 3-4

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See Jesus, Believe And Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Joe

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1:18

"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." Joel 2:32

[Guest]

Whether or not you feel you're qualified to converse with me is up to you. All I require of you is patience and an open mind. I'll proceed at whatever pace you desire, and address any topics that interest you. Being a scientist, it is my honor and privilege to guide you in research beyond what you already understand.

Great!

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Topic Of Interest

Sin

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Romans 3-23

And Origins

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

Romans 5:12

And Consequence

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 6:23

And The Love Of God

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Romans 5:8

And The Cry Of The Humble

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Romans 10:13

And The Confessions Of A Person Who Truly Sees

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Romans 10:9-10

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Think God Is Qualified to Converse With You?

It's Up To You

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

Revelation 3:20

[Xaxyx]

What branch of science is your bailiwick, Xaxyx?

To quote Christopher Lloyd, actually I'm a student of all the sciences.

[Xaxyx]

If matter can be neither created nor destroyed, where did all this matter come from?

We don't know.

The coolest thing about science is that the fact that there's always some new area to explore. The more we learn, a chemistry teacher once sagely declared to me, the more we discover that there is to learn. And so it is with the field of cosmology. We haven't the slightest idea where all this matter "came from". Some folks question whether it had to come from anywhere at all.

The Law of Conservation of Matter, which you reference, does indeed preclude the creation or destruction of matter. But it only does so within the universe itself. Actually forming an entire universe is another matter entirely (if you'll pardon the pun). It's an area that science has yet to explore, mainly because we lack a frame of reference, as well as suitable tools, to do anything more than haphazardly throw around conjectures.

So, I honestly haven't the foggiest notion where all of this stuff came from. Beats me. And no scientist can genuinely claim to be capable of providing any reasonable, meaningful evidence allowing him to draw any conclusions regarding it either. This admission does not concern me in the slightest. There's plenty of stuff we don't know. And I am thankful; I love to learn.

The pre-Big bang is supposed to have been subatomic in size.

Herein I can comment intelligently. The size of an object is not necessarily related to its mass. These are wholly distinct concepts. It is possible to compress tremendous amounts of material into a small space. Such objects exist in space. They have become so heavy, so dense, that the light that they omit gets sucked back into their own gravity wells. Thus, they are referred to as "black holes" -- mainly because for a long time, the only way to detect them is to look for empty patches of sky with a telescope.

Conversely, if you put a marshmallow into a vacuum chamber and suck most of the air out, it will balloon into a giant-sized mega-marshmallow. It still weighs the same, though.

[Xaxyx]

Topic Of Interest

Sin

I'm sorry Fresno, but I don't understand. Did you have a question for me?

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

So, I honestly haven't the foggiest notion where all of this stuff came from. Beats me.

Praise God! You are much closer to the Truth with this admittion.

Now let's examine the heart of the matter;

Isa

[MorningGlory]

What branch of science is your bailiwick, Xaxyx?

To quote Christopher Lloyd, actually I'm a student of all the sciences.

Okay, let me back up. What are your credentials?