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Sorry but the history of the church stance is applicable as we are seeing if this is a modern change, and if our modern bibles are causing error.

I am mostly interested in the stance of the Church as a whole, and mostly from post dark ages till 1900`s. I dont think what individuals taught as very helpful to our study as it is from the Church and society as a whole that we will get a general consensus.

I do not mean this will prove anything by itself but it is part of it i think.

Any readers out there that can assist?.


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Hi FoC we are getting nowhere, i started this thread to see what others thought, so i wont be replying to you on this thread.

I do hope you will post your own veiws seperatley on this thread but without quoting me as i think others could just evaluate them themselves.

If you do try to take up continual disputes with the the things i say, i forewarn you, i will consider it hounding and will appeal against this.

Now brother, dont try and say i wont recieve being challenged, as you are free to post your veiws, which i will read. And im not telling you cant post such and such, or where, only that if it becomes hounding i will appeal, the decision being the moderators.

My reason is that your large volumes of disputes, is not proving anything to me, and obscuring i think any chance of readers seeing the veiws of others.

Peace to you.

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He asked a simple question and you are being rude and defensive. It does not do much for your witness. If you are confident of your position and credentials, there is really no call for behaving in that fashion.

And yet it was 'ok' to start grilling me about credentials because I disagreed with OL's assertions ?

I wasnt being rude when I responded to OL in my first post to him. I was simply giving information. OL made the whole thing personal by seemingly requiring that I have a college degree or something in order to present my case agaist his statements. I find that quite unfair since I doubt that 99.9% of the membership has one nor has been asked to provide any...

Im not trying to be rude. I found OL's post to be making requirements of me that NO ONE else here has had demanded of them.

Are adminstrators here exempt from scrutiny when they get involved with a discussion. Colbalt ? If so I will do my best to overlook admin posts from this point forward. :rolleyes:

First off, I was not grilling you about anything. I asked because the only thing that you have presented was information from a site that I know nothing about, nor about William, which appears to be you. So, as I do with everyone who "teaches", I check them out. It would be unwise to just accept anyones teachings.

And yes, I used the word state as in meaning how one is living, as in a state of denial. That is why I gave you pure scripture. If you don't agree with scripture, then I do have a problem with your teachings.

Friend, you have an attitude problem. Do you always treat people like this when they ask you a question? Where are your fruits??


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Hi FoC we are getting nowhere, i started this thread to see what others thought, so i wont be replying to you on this thread.

Thats fine brother.

I would ask you again to at least give response to my query here before you ignore me tho:

I presented the PLAIN teachings of Christ in my previous post...are you willing to respond to those PLAIN teachings or will you simply IGNORE them because there is no way around them without exposing your own poor study method ?

The PLAIN teaching of Christ:

(Mat 5:42 KJV) Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

(Luk 6:30 KJV) Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

Im ASKING you for $1000

Will you obey Christs PLAIN teaching brother or ignore it ?

Remember the very moment you find even ONE reason why you DONT have to obey it you PROVE my point there there is MORE to the story than one or two PLAIN verses in scripture...there alway is.

i dont see any harm in responding to that question, if only for the readers sake.... :)

I do hope you will post your own veiws seperatley on this thread but without quoting me as i think others could just evaluate them themselves.

ill do so as needed, I suppose. But I do find it odd that you wont respond to my quesiton about Christs PLAIN instruction above...odd to say the least. I, for one, will arise to any challenge by the opposition in a discussion like this....

If you do try to take up continual disputes with the the things i say, i forewarn you, i will consider it hounding and will appeal against this.

So if I continue to respond to your error youre going to go tell a moderator ?

Im sorry but you dont understand how forums like these work. Im not 'hounding' you by responding to your assertions and your threats say more than you know. Everyone here understands that ANYONE is permitted to respond to ANYONE elses posts...thats just how it works on forums like these.

Now brother, dont try and say i wont recieve being challenged, as you are free to post your veiws, which i will read. And im not telling you cant post such and such, or where, only that if it becomes hounding i will appeal, the decision being the moderators.

Define 'hounding', poster...because the term seems to be a bit vague.

Within the RULES of this forum I will RESPOND to your posts and will ASK questions of those posts....if you refuse to respond that is your choice.

There are clear rules in place for this forum that the adminstrator has set in place. I have and will obey those rules to the best of my ability.

My reason is that your large volumes of disputes, is not proving anything to me, and obscuring i think any chance of readers seeing the veiws of others.

Peace to you.

So you want to speak and no one who disagrees with you is permitted to respond and EXPLAIN their response. Again that says a lot. I welcome anything you or anyone else has to offer against my views. But then, I dont fear being proven wrong....

lol ok one last reply.

I would not be runung to a moderator if you reply to my veiws, thats your right, but if i see that you are deliberatley jamming a thread i start, i will appeal which is my right. Is this not how the boards work ? we are free to appeal ? I only forewarned you of my intentions, so it was not a surprise to you.

Your asking me for $1000 dollars is i know a ploy to get me to say this is out of context, but it is much more than that. It is I THINK an ungenuine solicitation and an attempt tp twist the plain scriptures for arguements sake. God is watching these boards folks, let us becareful what we say.


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How is any of this related to the subject?

How about this:

1) STOP

2) Return to the subject

3) Be nice.

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That wasn't a request.

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