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i didn't see any arrogance in fireproof's responses at all. and one needs not to have been married to understand God's word. just as one should not stand against the word of God, neither should one dismiss the parts of God's word that don't fit into our neatly hammered little boxes. either it's all valid, or none of it is.

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i didn't see any arrogance in fireproof's responses at all. and one needs not to have been married to understand God's word. just as one should not stand against the word of God, neither should one dismiss the parts of God's word that don't fit into our neatly hammered little boxes. either it's all valid, or none of it is.

I never called him arrogant. To suggest humility does not mean one is arrogant. I suggested he listen to the wisdom others may have for him, those who have been there.

I agree that one does not have to be married to understand what God has to say about marriage, but when it comes to divorce, is is like trying to tell a seasoned warrior what it is like in the mist of battle when they have not been there. Sin leaves a wound until repentance covers the sin. It is best to avoid the battle then to have the wounds of war. This is done by rightly dividing Gods word so no battle is made.

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i certainly agree that it is best to avoid the battle! i guess i misunderstood what you were driving at. i was a christian (though i wasn't living for Him at the time) when i was married and divorced the first time. there was adultery on both parts. and then i was quite the wild child for a few years after my divorce. eventually though i did come to repentance. and a few years later, God brought me a husband.

this is slightly off the beaten bunny path, and i have no scriptural support for what i'm about to say, but it will be the first question i ask when i stand before God some day... i wonder about those marriages that we enter into that were in opposition to God's will to begin with. i mean, i know that God would still want us to honor our vows and if we do, He will still bless that marriage. but sometimes i wonder if maybe God didn't use my disobedience to His glory by allowing it to be a lesson learned... does that make any sense?


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i certainly agree that it is best to avoid the battle! i guess i misunderstood what you were driving at. i was a christian (though i wasn't living for Him at the time) when i was married and divorced the first time. there was adultery on both parts. and then i was quite the wild child for a few years after my divorce. eventually though i did come to repentance. and a few years later, God brought me a husband.

this is slightly off the beaten bunny path, and i have no scriptural support for what i'm about to say, but it will be the first question i ask when i stand before God some day... i wonder about those marriages that we enter into that were in opposition to God's will to begin with. i mean, i know that God would still want us to honor our vows and if we do, He will still bless that marriage. but sometimes i wonder if maybe God didn't use my disobedience to His glory by allowing it to be a lesson learned... does that make any sense?

I know what you mean. However we can only really look at that sort of thing in retrospect. If I say well I am going to do these things now so God's can show His grace in me, well this is a problem :cool: I do not think God ever wants us to sin, however His divine providence is a mystery no doubt God was working in your life from day one to lead you to where you are today.

The danger in believing that a marriage is in opposition to God's will is that it is a very convenient thing to believe when you want to divorce. I find it very easy in my own life to say well this is God's will when I really want to do something for myself anyway!

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oh i agree with you there... my musings are definitely retrospective, but i probably shouldn't have voiced them in case anyone does get it in their head and someday uses it as justification to divorce. hopefully that won't happen here.


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I think musings are okay though, we should do more of that in my opinion. We don't know a whole bunch of things and I think it is alright to have wonder and ideas about the mystery of life.


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I married when I was 16 and stayed married for 10 years just about but even though I knew in some form or another that divorce was wrong I was not walking with God and far from that to boot, my ex never believed in God and still doesn't, there was adultery on both ends as well as some violence and others types of abuse. When I was in the process of getting my divorce I met a guy and the first question he asked me was if I believed in God and if I thought hell was a real place. Now some may completely disagree with me but I do believe God sent that guy to me for all kinds of reasons. We have been married now for 20 odd years now and where we didn't always follow after God's leading we now have God in the center of our lives and just have the best marriage for it. I have repented of my sins from my first marriage and do believe God when He says my sins will not be remembered and as long as I don't go about sinning in the same ways I am forgiven.

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i have no doubt that God brought your (current) husband in your life, and has blessed your marriage!


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i have no doubt that God brought your (current) husband in your life, and has blessed your marriage!

Me too.

God wants what is good for us, not what is bad for us.


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i have no doubt that God brought your (current) husband in your life, and has blessed your marriage!

Me too.

God wants what is good for us, not what is bad for us.

I agree that God want's good for us. But He is the one who gets to define what good is, not us

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