Are You Lost?

[nChrist]

FresnoJoe,

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[nChrist]

Believer1997,

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[nChrist]

I prefer not to think of myself as "lost" (because, its not very respectful) but as a non-believer. I sit here very certain of where I am (spiritually, intellectually, physically) and whether someone thinks I'm lost or not is irrelevant. Thinking it does not make it true.

It's quite relevant because you're here talking about it. It's extremely important, and that's just one reason why you're talking about this issue. You aren't at peace with this issue - rightfully so.

Romans 8:1-8 (ASV)1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind of the flesh is death; but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace: 7 because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be: 8 and they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

nChrist

[nChrist]

ARE YOU LOST?

nChrist

NOPE!

AMEN!

I'd like to share a beautiful portion of Scripture that blesses me every time I read it:

Colossians 1:3-29 (ASV)3 We give thanks to God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 having heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have toward all the saints, 5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in the heavens, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which is come unto you; even as it is also in all the world bearing fruit and increasing, as [it doth] in you also, since the day ye heard and knew the grace of God in truth; 7 even as ye learned of Epaphras our beloved fellow-servant, who is a faithful minister of Christ on our behalf, 8 who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit. 9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it] , do not cease to pray and make request for you, that ye may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, unto all patience and longsuffering with joy; 12 giving thanks unto the Father, who made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light; 13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; 14 in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins: 15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; 17 and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it was the good pleasure [of the Father] that in him should all the fulness dwell; 20 and through him to reconcile all things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross; through him, [i say] , whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens. 21 And you, being in time past alienated and enemies in your mind in your evil works, 22 yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish and unreproveable before him: 23 if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven; whereof I Paul was made a minister. 24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

ARE YOU LOST?

nChrist

NOPE!

AMEN!

I'd like to share a beautiful portion of Scripture that blesses me every time I read it:

Colossians 1:3-29 (ASV)3 We give thanks to God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 having heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have toward all the saints, 5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in the heavens, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which is come unto you; even as it is also in all the world bearing fruit and increasing, as [it doth] in you also, since the day ye heard and knew the grace of God in truth; 7 even as ye learned of Epaphras our beloved fellow-servant, who is a faithful minister of Christ on our behalf, 8 who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit. 9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it] , do not cease to pray and make request for you, that ye may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 strengthened with all power, according to the might of his glory, unto all patience and longsuffering with joy; 12 giving thanks unto the Father, who made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light; 13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; 14 in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins: 15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; 17 and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it was the good pleasure [of the Father] that in him should all the fulness dwell; 20 and through him to reconcile all things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross; through him, [i say] , whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens. 21 And you, being in time past alienated and enemies in your mind in your evil works, 22 yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish and unreproveable before him: 23 if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven; whereof I Paul was made a minister. 24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church; 25 whereof I was made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which was given me to you-ward, to fulfil the word of God, 26 [ even] the mystery which hath been hid for ages and generations: but now hath it been manifested to his saints, 27 to whom God was pleased to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28 whom we proclaim, admonishing every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ; 29 whereunto I labor also, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

nChrist

Beautiful Indeed!

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

But I couldn't care less if you do because I'm not going to scare you into it by telling the story of eternal punishment. That would just be mean and manipulative.

As Christians we are SUPPOSE to care.

I don't believe in scaring people, being mean to people, or manipulating people, however the truth is the truth. . . .

If a person dies without genuinely asking for forgiveness for their sins and accepting Jesus as their Savior

the Bible (not me) says they will not go to Heaven. If they don't go to Heaven there's only one other place

they will go, and it ain't the mall!

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

But I couldn't care less if you do because I'm not going to scare you into it by telling the story of eternal punishment. That would just be mean and manipulative.

As Christians we are SUPPOSE to care.

I don't believe in scaring people, being mean to people, or manipulating people, however the truth is the truth. . . .

If a person dies without genuinely asking for forgiveness for their sins and accepting Jesus as their Savior

the Bible (not me) says they will not go to Heaven. If they don't go to Heaven there's only one other place

they will go, and it ain't the mall!

Great! Fantastic. You believe that, all the power to you. I don't. And it really puts a damper on my day being told I have a seat reserved on the one way train to hell. I understand that you care and you're doing what is said to do in the Bible, but please...don't. If the person you are talking to doesn't care about their afterlife, neither should you. Besides, that's more room in heaven for those who deserve it right?

If you really believe we shouldn't care,

why are you participating in this thread of people who do care?

And why should it put a damper on your day if you don't care?

None of us DESERVE to go to Heaven, but God changed that by sending us Jesus.

If you don't believe that - it's your loss.

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shiloh357,

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[OneLight]

But I couldn't care less if you do because I'm not going to scare you into it by telling the story of eternal punishment. That would just be mean and manipulative.

As Christians we are SUPPOSE to care.

I don't believe in scaring people, being mean to people, or manipulating people, however the truth is the truth. . . .

If a person dies without genuinely asking for forgiveness for their sins and accepting Jesus as their Savior

the Bible (not me) says they will not go to Heaven. If they don't go to Heaven there's only one other place

they will go, and it ain't the mall!

Great! Fantastic. You believe that, all the power to you. I don't. And it really puts a damper on my day being told I have a seat reserved on the one way train to hell. I understand that you care and you're doing what is said to do in the Bible, but please...don't. If the person you are talking to doesn't care about their afterlife, neither should you. Besides, that's more room in heaven for those who deserve it right?

What else do you expect on a Christian site? Love comes in many different forms. We could love you by trying to make you feel all good inside, or we could really love you and tell you the truth. We choose the latter. If you want someone to tickle your ears, this is not the site. The pure truth is, if you die without Christ, you will be separated from God eternally. You may not believe that your spirit lives after death, but we do. Because of the love Christ gave us, we will tell you the truth.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

The cliff doesn't exist. Its a 6 foot hole in the ground. My truth is different.

once again, your denial of something does not make it any less real.

and truth is truth, there is no my truth and your truth.

Exactly!