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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harrass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harrass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

And God allows all this to happen.

Why?


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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

And God allows all this to happen.

Why?

Because He gave you the choice to choose what you want to do or what you want to worship and when and how you want to do it. He wants you to Love him because it is your will to do so and not because He made you do it. What good is forced obedience? It wouldn't be God's choice if you take the mark it will be yours. It is not the choice of God to come over and give you a good beating it would be your neighbors choice because God gave him the choice to do so just like He gave you the choice to go over and beat your neighbor. So who let what happen?

The choice/freedom to choose our next move be it good or bad is a gift from God which would not be a gift if God intervened and provented our choices. It would make Him A HYPOCRITE which He is not. But He is a God of His word eternally perfect.


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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harrass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

And God allows all this to happen.

Why?

Hummmmm, :thumbsup: I'm not sure it's my place to speak for the mind of God, but I can tell you what I think.

Mankind has a purpose in the scheme of things long term in Gods paradgym. We know that the people who come out of the great tribulation will be with him and serve him for eternity. Considering the situation with Lucifer, as I understand it, He would want to know how we deal with a lot of things. It is my understanding that we as Saints will actually be a little higher than the angels in the order of things.

Also Paul tells us that we will actually judge the angels, so this is somewhat of a jury picking action for at least some of us.

I've read somewhere in the word that we as humans can not even fathom the things we will be doing in heaven, and the Father needs to be sure of who He alows to participate in eternity.

Call it a test, or trials and tribulations to see if we are really dedicated to Him and whatever he has in store for us.

Those are some of my personal thoughts on the subject. What's in the Mind of the Creator may be a lot deeper than that, for we really don't have a clue as to the things we'll be doing except singing for some of us. If I'm in that group I sure hope my new body sings better then this one does.

Whatever the case I would guess that a hundred thousand years into eternity none of us will be bothered much about the next few years of troubles and tribulations that we are gong to have to deal with.


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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

And God allows all this to happen.

Why?

Because He gave you the choice to choose what you want to do or what you want to worship and when and how you want to do it. He wants you to Love him because it is your will to do so and not because He made you do it. What good is forced obedience? It wouldn't be God's choice if you take the mark it will be yours. It is not the choice of God to come over and give you a good beating it would be your neighbors choice because God gave him the choice to do so just like He gave you the choice to go over and beat your neighbor. So who let what happen?

The choice/freedom to choose our next move be it good or bad is a gift from God which would not be a gift if God intervened and provented our choices. It would make Him A HYPOCRITE which He is not. But He is a God of His word eternally perfect.

Christians are always stronger and more resolute in their Faith when they are being persecuted.

If Satan had any brains, he would stop persecuting the Church.


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Does anyone know the difference between God's passive will and God's positive will?

God is always in control.

Otherwise, Satan could snatch you out of His hand.

That is true on a spiritual sense, but he can harass you a lot, and he can talk you neighbor into coming over and giving you a good beating..... and very soon they will come and offer you a really cool mark if you will worship the beast, and when you don't they will cut off your head.

And God allows all this to happen.

Why?

Because He gave you the choice to choose what you want to do or what you want to worship and when and how you want to do it. He wants you to Love him because it is your will to do so and not because He made you do it. What good is forced obedience? It wouldn't be God's choice if you take the mark it will be yours. It is not the choice of God to come over and give you a good beating it would be your neighbors choice because God gave him the choice to do so just like He gave you the choice to go over and beat your neighbor. So who let what happen?

The choice/freedom to choose our next move be it good or bad is a gift from God which would not be a gift if God intervened and provented our choices. It would make Him A HYPOCRITE which He is not. But He is a God of His word eternally perfect.

Christians are always stronger and more resolute in their Faith when they are being persecuted.

If Satan had any brains, he would stop persecuting the Church.

You got that right! But if he knew as much as he thinks he does he would have known in advance that it would seal his fate by helping to get Christ crucified. However God saw fit to hide that little fact from him. HA! HA! HA! iN YOUR FACE satan.

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